putting the lights on make the engine rev ?????

Got an electrical gremlin? Ask the question here.
clark
Got muddy boots
Got muddy boots
Posts: 15
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:12 pm

putting the lights on make the engine rev ?????

Post by clark » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:19 pm

so ........... ive been having problems with my samurai either stalling or revving to about 3000rpm at idle , so I thought I had a problem with the carb , so not having had a Suzuki before I thought I would read up and see if I was missing something , I then stumbled across a thread where a guy had mentioned having to pump the pedal twice to get the auto choke to work , so ...... im thinking this is the problem , so grabbed the keys went outside and pumped the pedal twice and started her up , idle no problem , until I decided to take it up the road for a run and put the headlights on , the engine then revved at idle to 3500rpm , I turn the lights off and it drops back down to 1500 again , any ideas anyone ???

Regards

Graham

User avatar
ScottieJ
The Boss
The Boss
Posts: 11635
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:13 pm
Location: Chippenham, wiltshire

Re: putting the lights on make the engine rev ?????

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:22 pm

Yes there is an idle up system that raises the idle speed when there is a lot of current draw on the alternator.

3500 sounds a bit high though so it will need adjusting.

Or you could just unplug the idle up system. It's the electrical connector that is sort of under and off to the left of the thermostat housing iirc.
Zuki Build

Steady as she goes!

User avatar
ROBBIE
I spend far too much time on here
I spend far too much time on here
Posts: 4555
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:32 pm
Location: Dorset or stuck

Re: putting the lights on make the engine rev ?????

Post by ROBBIE » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:22 pm

Sid James gone but never forgotten
Jimny 1.6 not as good as an SJ but still good

User avatar
ScottieJ
The Boss
The Boss
Posts: 11635
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:13 pm
Location: Chippenham, wiltshire

Re: putting the lights on make the engine rev ?????

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:27 pm

That's about the dim dip relay not the idle up system ;)
Zuki Build

Steady as she goes!

clark
Got muddy boots
Got muddy boots
Posts: 15
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:12 pm

Re: putting the lights on make the engine rev ?????

Post by clark » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:41 pm

scottie ; so are you suggesting that I unplug the idle up unit and leave it unplugged ?? do you think this would give me the problems I am getting ie ; under normal conditions ie no headlights , On idle its either stalling or racing to 3.5 ??

cheers

User avatar
ScottieJ
The Boss
The Boss
Posts: 11635
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:13 pm
Location: Chippenham, wiltshire

Re: putting the lights on make the engine rev ?????

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:49 pm

Unplugging the idle up system will just stop the revs rising when the lights are on etc, I completely removed the idle up system on my old 1.6 carb.

It shouldn't effect the stalling issue, the stalling is probably a choke related issue and that's a seperate system.

In the General troubleshooting section on here you can download a service manual and there's a whole section about the carb and setting it up. They are quite complicated carbs though, most people get rid of them and swap them for a weber or SU.
Zuki Build

Steady as she goes!

clark
Got muddy boots
Got muddy boots
Posts: 15
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:12 pm

Re: putting the lights on make the engine rev ?????

Post by clark » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:53 pm

Scottie , ive just been out and started it again , AND when I put the heater on it does the same so you may well have hit the nail on the head , ive just got to find the little blighter now and un plug it , I can live with the stalling but the high revs at idle make me sound like my great aunt mary in her metro :)

User avatar
ScottieJ
The Boss
The Boss
Posts: 11635
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:13 pm
Location: Chippenham, wiltshire

Re: putting the lights on make the engine rev ?????

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:56 pm

:lol: my samurai has the same stalling issue when it's first started, I've not quite completely solved it yet but with some tweaking of the carb I'm almost there and it's nowhere near as bad as it was when I first got it.

I presume once it's warmed up a bit it doesn't stall.
Zuki Build

Steady as she goes!

User avatar
Darrell
Suzuki, will you marry me?
Suzuki, will you marry me?
Posts: 2988
Joined: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:54 pm
Location: south oxfordshire
Contact:

Re: putting the lights on make the engine rev ?????

Post by Darrell » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:57 pm

clark wrote:Scottie , ive just been out and started it again , AND when I put the heater on it does the same so you may well have hit the nail on the head , ive just got to find the little blighter now and un plug it , I can live with the stalling but the high revs at idle make me sound like my great aunt mary in her metro :)
This bugger................
Attachments
100_4862.jpg
100_4862.jpg (131.31 KiB) Viewed 7032 times
2005-GV 1600se, "Hell" What do I know!

clark
Got muddy boots
Got muddy boots
Posts: 15
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:12 pm

Re: putting the lights on make the engine rev ?????

Post by clark » Sun Jan 25, 2015 7:00 pm

boys i'm out there now with a head torch looking for the little bugger !!!!!

Post Reply