413 engine and gearbox change - as one

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Re: 413 engine and gearbox change - as one

Post by turbo-tom » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:56 pm

i splitted my gearbox from the engine , in both of the engines i took at a few months ago makes life much eaiser and plus it gives you more room to move the engine around in the bay.
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Re: 413 engine and gearbox change - as one

Post by dan_2k_uk » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:28 pm

I havent done it any way other than lifting it by hand onto a bare chassis but I would guess its considerably easier with the front clip off. Well worth the time taken to remove it if the bolts are in ok condition.

With my 1600 stripped of inlet and exhaust manifolds it was easily light enough to lift on with 3 people so I would say you should be able to lift a 1300 in with the front clip off.

Two people above and one underneath with decent gloves on to guide the gearbox mount into the right spot.

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Re: 413 engine and gearbox change - as one

Post by twiss » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:01 am

When we put my engine in, 2 of us lifted it over the front clip, standing on the tyres lol

we used some rope and a scaffold pole! :)
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Re: 413 engine and gearbox change - as one

Post by timpaton » Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:45 pm

Thanks for the offers of help. I think i wil leave it for now, its just soo cold and unpleasant outside, i only have a single garage, so have to wheel it out each time, in the dark, etc, and christmas is just around the corner?
Think i will take my time, and if the weather improves between christmas and new year, i will rope in a friend/or brother, take the box off, then hire a crane (i can get one for 40 quid for a long weekend) and swap the engine.
I got a replacement engine and box, might go out to the garage now and pour a cap full of oil down each plug hole, to make sure the rings are free, and spin it over by hand a couple of times.
With regards to taking the clip off, and gaining height - i only have standard axle stands, and from the pics, i just dont think i will get the angle
Thanks for the assistance
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Re: 413 engine and gearbox change - as one

Post by timpaton » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:16 am

Hi,
I decided to split the engine and box, and now have the new engine in and bolted up. The only things i need to do to get it running are, find a carb to inlet manifold gasket, but these seem hard to come by unless you by the complete headset, any ideas?

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Re: 413 engine and gearbox change - as one

Post by ScottieJ » Sat Dec 31, 2011 12:44 pm

I made my own out of some thin cardboard (cereal box) :lol: ran with that for a year or you can get some proper gasket paper from a motor factors
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Re: 413 engine and gearbox change - as one

Post by twiss » Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:11 pm

I got mine from Rhino Ray... he keeps random bits like that in stock lol
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Re: 413 engine and gearbox change - as one

Post by timpaton » Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:34 pm

Thanks for the tips, i opted to split the engine and box, and it went in without any tears. However i think i have destroyed the carb, see my new topic in the bar area of the site, thanks again for the advise, Tim

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