Mot fail hand brake

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Mot fail hand brake

Post by Crisdolf » Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:19 pm

The old sj failed mot on theses points 1 Parking brake lever has no reserve travel.2 Parking brake efficiency below requirements . As having no manual yet,I'm thinking get hubs off and have a look,but was wondering anybody shed some light on how I go about adjusting handbrake .I intend putting new shoes on as have to put new pads on front.1983 SJ410
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Re: Mot fail hand brake

Post by Edweird » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:26 pm

If yours is a type 2 (1983/84) like mine the handbrake is on the rear prop-shaft/back of the transfer box. All you need to adjust it is to get a decent sized flat head screwdriver, get underneath and turn the adjustment nuts. They're shaped like cartoony cogs so you just poke the screwdriver through the hole in the drum and use that to turn them. There are two, one for each pad, positioned roughly at 5 and 6 o'clock if I remember rightly.
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Re: Mot fail hand brake

Post by ScottieJ » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:28 pm

You should have a transmission drum brake and it'll prob just need adjusting http://forum.suzukiclubuk.co.uk/vi ... 14/t,2793/

They need to follow a certain procedure to test transmission brakes on the rollers. It can damage the transmission and if they do damage something they are liable to repair it at their cost. Really you shouldn't actually test them on the rollers. I procedure is covered in the MOT manual.
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Re: Mot fail hand brake

Post by Crisdolf » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:07 pm

Yeah I sussed how to do handbrake just had a look and can see that hole :D ,how do I adjust back brakes ?
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Re: Mot fail hand brake

Post by ScottieJ » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:34 pm

Did it fail on those as well then did it? I'm not sure if your year SJ will have self adjusters or not? Either way I think you need to pull the drum off to adjust them up if the self adjusters have stopped working and there aren't any bungs you pull out to adjust them if its got manual adjusters like LJs do.
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Re: Mot fail hand brake

Post by Darrell » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:34 pm

IF the MOT guy only commented on the handbrake they should be working fine :thumbup:

Full service manual can be found here - http://www.4x4.in.th/manual_sj413/

OK a 413 manual but a 410 running gear is much the same.

But after having a look, Scott is correct that the early models are not the same.
So had a shifty and have found these........

looks like the 83/84 model has the self adjusting mechanism (20) and adjustment on the bottom anchor assembly (23)
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Re: Mot fail hand brake

Post by Crisdolf » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:01 pm

Just looked nothing about back on there,but bloke did say back brakes not very good ,so was looking to see if I could tweak them a little,handbrake seems find but it has to be pulled right up ,handbrake fail on mot refusal ticket,it does say on there inner sill seat belt anchorage prescribed area is excessively corroded both sides just had a look wow how the hell he knows that god know and can't see how to get to them without taking body off or cutting though sills :(
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Re: Mot fail hand brake

Post by ScottieJ » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:56 pm

Inner sill seatbelt anchorage could be that there is some rust within 12" of this point
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Re: Mot fail hand brake

Post by Crisdolf » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:39 am

All looks good inside,he gave me impression it was needed outside ?
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Re: Mot fail hand brake

Post by ScottieJ » Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:56 am

Is there any rust within 12" of the mount on the outside/underneath then?
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