Getting stuck halfway thru gearbox removal HELP pse ....

All tech relating to the Suzuki Vitara that won't relate to any other models, Front IFS etc.
Post Reply
User avatar
npjrogers@btinternet.com
Got muddy boots
Got muddy boots
Posts: 50
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: BT17 9LS BELFAST

Getting stuck halfway thru gearbox removal HELP pse ....

Post by npjrogers@btinternet.com » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:04 pm

Santana 2door vit soft top 99 jx4u2 ltd edition. Am following peter russek book but am a bit stuck.. Have removed exhaust downpipe. Have uncoupled rear drive shaft and pulled away. Disconneded clutch cable .. Having probs getting to all the gearbox to engine bolts partic on upper right, off side. Cant see any way to get at starter motor from top.. Do I really need to remove?? Incredibly cluttered on upper off side rear of engine with brake servo and all the rest..
Next will be gbox support bracket but with no experience of vits am relying on my stupidity which is so strong it is causing probs.. I have a very useful wheeled dolly (not the wife..;) so i hope to lower gbox onto it and roll it back.. Have removed gear levers and so I cant pretend I am making progress by doing other parts of the job.. Have got the vit on 4 axel stands so no ramp and no pit. Belly just touches the front suspension cross support as I trolly in under.. Scary at first but at least wife knows I am there if I get stuck..:)...

Any tips advice or encouragement really appreciated..

Nick
Belfast

02890616735

I really dont mind if you laugh at me.. Honestly..:)

User avatar
dan_2k_uk
I spend far too much time on here
I spend far too much time on here
Posts: 4924
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 5:19 pm
Location: Swindon, Wiltshire

Re: Getting stuck halfway thru gearbox removal HELP pse ....

Post by dan_2k_uk » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:46 pm

Starter will have to be removed or it will foul the flywheel when you try to seperate them.

If you really cant get to the bolts I would remove whatever is in the way.

Cant speak for the Vit too much but as its quite similar to the sj the bolts shouldnt be that hard to get to!

Dan
Image
Janspeed manifold, LWB Vit vented discs and calipers

Build thread -- Build photos -- HLA-Artwork
Coming soon: YJs, Trussed axles, Full float rear.

User avatar
Highlander
Can I have a tow
Can I have a tow
Posts: 350
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:19 pm
Location: Kilmarnock

Re: Getting stuck halfway thru gearbox removal HELP pse ....

Post by Highlander » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:52 pm

On Samurais I usually take the top gearbox bolts out from the nearside top with a small ratchet and socket.

Starter, I usually use combi spanners, it is fiddly but you will find the way :)
Image

User avatar
dan_2k_uk
I spend far too much time on here
I spend far too much time on here
Posts: 4924
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 5:19 pm
Location: Swindon, Wiltshire

Re: Getting stuck halfway thru gearbox removal HELP pse ....

Post by dan_2k_uk » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:57 pm

A good variety of tools is always helpfull.

Ive got one of these and theres always something in there that can get the fiddly bits done.

Image
Image
Janspeed manifold, LWB Vit vented discs and calipers

Build thread -- Build photos -- HLA-Artwork
Coming soon: YJs, Trussed axles, Full float rear.

User avatar
Highlander
Can I have a tow
Can I have a tow
Posts: 350
Joined: Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:19 pm
Location: Kilmarnock

Re: Getting stuck halfway thru gearbox removal HELP pse ....

Post by Highlander » Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:50 pm

I've got one of these :lol:

Image

its not really mine but i have it in the workshop just now :lol:
Image

User avatar
npjrogers@btinternet.com
Got muddy boots
Got muddy boots
Posts: 50
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: BT17 9LS BELFAST

Re: Getting stuck halfway thru gearbox removal HELP pse ....

Post by npjrogers@btinternet.com » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:35 pm

He guys .. Your advice and encouragement has really worked.. The starter is out the gbox is unbolted from the engine and the gbox support brackets are off... So now the gbox is resting on two jacks...
In the absence of a custom gbox jack I thought that several bags of sand on a 4 wheeled dolly might do the job.. I still have to pick up the courage to "slide the gbox and transfer box out to the rear" as the book says..
What is the best way to slide it out.. I thought a few sacks of sand would guard against a sudden drop.. And maybe the judicious use of a screw driver between the engine and gearbox.. Does it take grunt to separate or should it slide out.. What about the forward drive shaft.. Does it drop before or after the gbox separates?

Thanks again for the virtual support..
Nick
Belfast

User avatar
dan_2k_uk
I spend far too much time on here
I spend far too much time on here
Posts: 4924
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 5:19 pm
Location: Swindon, Wiltshire

Re: Getting stuck halfway thru gearbox removal HELP pse ....

Post by dan_2k_uk » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:58 pm

Dont know about the forward drive shaft as I have no experience of a vit box but some wiggleing rocking and pulling should do the trick. Make sure you have removed the little guard at the bottom of the bellhousing or it will stop it coming away.

Dan
Image
Janspeed manifold, LWB Vit vented discs and calipers

Build thread -- Build photos -- HLA-Artwork
Coming soon: YJs, Trussed axles, Full float rear.

User avatar
npjrogers@btinternet.com
Got muddy boots
Got muddy boots
Posts: 50
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: BT17 9LS BELFAST

Re: Getting stuck halfway thru gearbox removal HELP pse ....

Post by npjrogers@btinternet.com » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:20 pm

Thanks Dan .. Will check in the morning before starting..
Nick

vitara_mad
Engaged 4wd low
Engaged 4wd low
Posts: 135
Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:05 pm
Location: dronfield , derbyshire

Re: Getting stuck halfway thru gearbox removal HELP pse ....

Post by vitara_mad » Tue Jul 24, 2012 11:06 am

i presume you drained the transfer box oil ????

just unbolt the front prop from the diff & slide it out of the transfer box its the easyest way

use a ratchet strap from engine to somewhere on front of the vit to support engine & stop it from trying to tip backwards that will make it a little easyer to seperate the box

i would not try to lift box of yourself by hand its heavy & may end up on top of you & it will hurt

why are you taking it off ?????

User avatar
npjrogers@btinternet.com
Got muddy boots
Got muddy boots
Posts: 50
Joined: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:55 pm
Location: BT17 9LS BELFAST

Re: Getting stuck halfway thru gearbox removal HELP pse ....

Post by npjrogers@btinternet.com » Sun Aug 26, 2012 12:02 pm

Job done.. 8 new bearings in gbox .. Strip and rebuild 280 pounds .. New clutch and refit crank seal and outer bearing. No probs back on road.. Thanks to all for support

Post Reply