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Engine massively overheating

Post by timwilks13 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:54 am

Hi guys, recently changed my cylinder head gasket, now she has power again and drives nicely, but after about 15 mins of driving it over heats massively and i loose all power. I dont think the regulator is opening when it should because water isnt blowing out the radiator. I know its obviously a part of the engine, but is there any harm in just taking it out completely then running it to see if thats the problem?
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Re: Engine massively overheating

Post by twiss » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:03 am

You can remove the thermostat yes, just remember that removing it may not be the cure if the overheating is caused by something else!

Stick the thermostat in a saucepan of water and heat it up slowly on a hob... It should open just before the water starts boiling
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Re: Engine massively overheating

Post by kiwizook » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:07 am

I recommend the same thing. This is a method even professional electricians use on hot water cylinders!
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Re: Engine massively overheating

Post by twiss » Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:14 am

Just don't upset your mrs using her best pans ;)
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Re: Engine massively overheating

Post by timwilks13 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:10 pm

its ok i bought her a new one for valentines day so i think that gives me permission to use her old one.
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Re: Engine massively overheating

Post by timwilks13 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:19 pm

yea the thermostat regulator was not opening over boiling point so replaced it, now she doesnt over heat (or didnt when i drove her round for 40 mins so fingers crossed). One last thing if anyone knows, having now done a full top half gasket change, new spark plugs, thermostat regulator, air filter etc, every time i stop the car, give it 3 seconds and it backfires like a bat out of hell....dafuq?!?!
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Re: Engine massively overheating

Post by ScottieJ » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:40 pm

Is it backfiring out of the carb or exhaust? A backfire when you shut it down is usually related to either the air:fuel mixture or timing.

Did you set the timing up with a timing light?

did you have the valves out while the head was off?

Oh and glad you've got it running and it's no longer overheating :good:
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Re: Engine massively overheating

Post by dan_2k_uk » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:46 pm

If you haven't fiddled with fuelling but have with timing I would guess at timing.
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Re: Engine massively overheating

Post by timwilks13 » Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:57 pm

Its backfiring out the exhaust. It will be the timing then as i have done nothing with the fuel/air and i didnt take the valves out, but the notch that holds the driveshaft pulley inline has worn quite a lot so when you fit the timing belt it can go a tooth or two either way even when the timing belt is fitted properly. Not sure that makes sense, ill take a picture tonight to aid my description.

The more work i do on this the more i find problems with it. Just discovered a massive oil leak from somewhere and the rear right wheel is buckled....ffs.

*edit - I meant drive shaft not camshaft
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Re: Engine massively overheating

Post by Jordi » Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:01 pm

What kinda wheels. I have a lovely set of standard wellers!!!!!!
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