Sticky 1st gear

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Sticky 1st gear

Post by penpontgreenwoodwork » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:17 pm

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1st gear on my 5 speed sj 413 is not easy to engage, I need to be stationary and usually need to double declutch to get her in. Is it the selectors or something as simple as clutch cable adjustment. All the other gears are smooth. Any thoughts?
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Re: Sticky 1st gear

Post by ScottieJ » Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:23 pm

These gearboxes are supposed to be pretty much stationary before you can engage 1st, I've never driven an SJ or vitara that likes going into 1st while moving.

However you shouldn't need to double clutch it while stationary, when was the last time you checked your gearbox oil and is the clutch adjusted up to remove any slack from the cable?
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Re: Sticky 1st gear

Post by penpontgreenwoodwork » Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:37 am

Thanks, I havn't long had her so am still looking into things (and turning the shed floor orange!). The prop seal is weeping a bit so there must be oil (though obviously less). Will check it and the cable. Not done anything with sj gearbox's before, how do I check the oil level, is it up to the filler bolt?
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Re: Sticky 1st gear

Post by Darrell » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:49 am

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The seal can be replaced with a 32-42-8 r23 seal which any bearing supplier should have.

As Scottie says it's normal not to be able to get first whilst still moving.
The clutch may be dragging a little so this would make it difficult and the cable adjust may sort this.
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Re: Sticky 1st gear

Post by ScottieJ » Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:42 am

If you haven't had it long I'd advise giving it a complete fluid service if you haven't already, fresh gearbox, transfer box and diff oil is always a good thing :thumbup:
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Re: Sticky 1st gear

Post by penpontgreenwoodwork » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:10 pm

Will do that. Are they all the same oil, 80w90? Thanks guys
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Re: Sticky 1st gear

Post by dan_2k_uk » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:21 pm

Theres loads of info in the tech spec section of the homepage :thumbup:

http://www.suzukiclubuk.co.uk/tech-spec ... -and-types
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Re: Sticky 1st gear

Post by penpontgreenwoodwork » Mon Mar 18, 2013 6:40 pm

Everything I need to know :oops: thanks. I have 5L of 80w/90 in the shed, will it matter that much to put that in, or am I just being stingy! :cowboy::
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Re: Sticky 1st gear

Post by ScottieJ » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:14 pm

It'll be fine
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