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Stuck sump

Post by mk1joe » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:14 pm

Hey guys,
kind of a depressing one tonight, theres been quite a bad oil leak from my sump for a while now so i thought tonight was the night to do it, but i cant get it off:( ive undone all the bolts and given it a good few wacks from the top with a hammer and pry bar but it doesnt want to budge. ive tried prying inbetween with a screwdriver but it just starts to bend the sump which im a bit worried about doing, i dont want to ruin the seal or scratch the face so it leaks.
any advice would be much appreciated:)


I ordered a new sump gasket and a new rocker gasket from ebay, and the company sent me through a complete gasket set!! me very happy!!
So when i took the rocker cover off i found the inside in a horrible state, theres really thick layers of oil burnt into the metal. so now i want to take out the cams and the rockers and completely clean them so i know oil is getting to them. so do you think its a good idea to do the head gasket while im there? im a bit on the fence with this one coz it might be better not to disturb it, but it would be easier to clean the head if i can take it off.
Thanks for all the help guys, i hope you can understand my nonsense :)

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Re: Stuck sump

Post by Jordi » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:33 pm

I opted to leave the head alone. To me it's a job only to be done when required.

As for the sump i had issues removing one of a spare engine. I just hit it harder. It had been siliconed on.
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Re: Stuck sump

Post by mk1joe » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:46 pm

fair play:) where abouts is the best place to hit it? just wack it from the side or something?

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Re: Stuck sump

Post by Jordi » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:49 pm

Yeah. Either with a big leather mallet or stick a block of wood inbetween. Give it a good few bashs as close to the block as you can get working all the way round the seal.
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Re: Stuck sump

Post by dazerede » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:53 pm

I had the same trouble when I had a hole in my sump took al bolts out and I had a trolley jack underneath as I thought it was going to fall straight off
best option is a rubber hammer thing and tap it al the way around
Try a knife and cut the seal a bit
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Re: Stuck sump

Post by mk1joe » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:47 pm

Cool:) thanks guys, I like the knife idea. Should I be able to remove the rocker shafts and cam without taking off the head?

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Re: Stuck sump

Post by dan_2k_uk » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:01 pm

Yeah but you have to remove the timing pulley to get the shafts out the front.
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Re: Stuck sump

Post by mk1joe » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:46 pm

Hmm, should be able to do that, its probably worth it.

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Re: Stuck sump

Post by Jordi » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:33 pm

So has the sump come off yet?
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Re: Stuck sump

Post by mk1joe » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:13 pm

no :bawling: :cry: :bawling: :cry:
ive tried the knife, but that just gets stuck and snaps.
Ive tried the rubber hammer, but thats just denting it.
ive tried prying it with a screwdriver, but thats just bending the rim.

i hate this car... can someone come do it for me?

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