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- Jordi
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Re: suzuki steve's 410 build
1988 Samurai - Truck Cab & Tray Back - 1.6 8v & HIF44 - Snorkel - Stack Exhaust - PAS, YJs & 33s - Trussed, Gusseted & Pumpkin Capped Axles - 4.3 R&Ps - 4.16 T/Box - Rear Air Locker - Full Float Back Axle & Discs - RCV Front Shafts - X-Eng Handbrake - Custom Fuel Tank
Re: suzuki steve's 410 build
did the same on my front arches steve . ive posted some pics of mine this evening . i used the plastic curtain they use on factory doors to extend mine
SJ 410 currently off road waiting to leap out of hibernation.
Please visit wifes web site http://www.apassionforcakes.co.uk/index.htm you might even find a zuke on there :-)
Please visit wifes web site http://www.apassionforcakes.co.uk/index.htm you might even find a zuke on there :-)
- suzukisteve
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Re: suzuki steve's 410 build
ah fantastic! so as a guide for the curve, just use the existing curvature of the indent thats already in the body
once its all tacked in is it best to seam weld arch to the wing?
once its all tacked in is it best to seam weld arch to the wing?
pickle power!
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Re: suzuki steve's 410 build
Mine is just spot welded every few inchs. I'm not the worlds best welder. As much as seam welding can look tidier. It was easier and neater for me to spot weld.
I put the panel in place and just tacked it as i shaped it to the curve of the wing. The indent made a nice easy line to follow for cutting the old wing out.
I put the panel in place and just tacked it as i shaped it to the curve of the wing. The indent made a nice easy line to follow for cutting the old wing out.
1988 Samurai - Truck Cab & Tray Back - 1.6 8v & HIF44 - Snorkel - Stack Exhaust - PAS, YJs & 33s - Trussed, Gusseted & Pumpkin Capped Axles - 4.3 R&Ps - 4.16 T/Box - Rear Air Locker - Full Float Back Axle & Discs - RCV Front Shafts - X-Eng Handbrake - Custom Fuel Tank
- suzukisteve
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Re: suzuki steve's 410 build
sweet! next week is when the body work will begin! then ill chuck the other lump in. give a proper once over add interior trim, cd player, lights etc etc
really excited about the "finished" product!
really excited about the "finished" product!
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Re: suzuki steve's 410 build
The plan for the new front clip is.....
Cut it out to the indent, possibly the top of it this time.
Cut a new panel to fit and joggle & punch the edge where the join in the arch will be
Fit it so it over laps on top of the old arch
Spot weld through the hole in the engine bay
On the underside where the groove is and the panels join seam weld it
I don't intend to have the steel cover all the tyre, just sticking out 2/3 inches
Drill a hole every few inches along the sticky out bit and bolt some thick rubber extentions on to cover the sharp edge and the tyres.
Make sense?
I'm hoping it will make a tidier job of it by joggling along the join in the arch
Cut it out to the indent, possibly the top of it this time.
Cut a new panel to fit and joggle & punch the edge where the join in the arch will be
Fit it so it over laps on top of the old arch
Spot weld through the hole in the engine bay
On the underside where the groove is and the panels join seam weld it
I don't intend to have the steel cover all the tyre, just sticking out 2/3 inches
Drill a hole every few inches along the sticky out bit and bolt some thick rubber extentions on to cover the sharp edge and the tyres.
Make sense?
I'm hoping it will make a tidier job of it by joggling along the join in the arch
1988 Samurai - Truck Cab & Tray Back - 1.6 8v & HIF44 - Snorkel - Stack Exhaust - PAS, YJs & 33s - Trussed, Gusseted & Pumpkin Capped Axles - 4.3 R&Ps - 4.16 T/Box - Rear Air Locker - Full Float Back Axle & Discs - RCV Front Shafts - X-Eng Handbrake - Custom Fuel Tank
- dan_2k_uk
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Re: suzuki steve's 410 build
Mine is pretty much as already described in Jordi's plan for next time except butted up and seam welded rather than an overlap.
The bottom of the pressed indent is bang on level with the highest part of the inner arch like you said Steve.
I cut a tiny bit higher into the pressed indent which is now fillered over across the whole truck which hides the weld nicely.
I just have a inch and a bit sticking out in 1.6mm steel and rubber pop riveted to that to make up the rest so if it twats a tree or a deep rut it wont rip off my hard work.
With the bulkhead I continued dead straight from the bottom of the front clip to give a little more clearance.
Sorted. No good if you want to keep that pressed groove. Although you could probably keep it across most of the truck and just lose it on the arches I found it much easier to just smooth the doors too!
Dan
The bottom of the pressed indent is bang on level with the highest part of the inner arch like you said Steve.
I cut a tiny bit higher into the pressed indent which is now fillered over across the whole truck which hides the weld nicely.
I just have a inch and a bit sticking out in 1.6mm steel and rubber pop riveted to that to make up the rest so if it twats a tree or a deep rut it wont rip off my hard work.
With the bulkhead I continued dead straight from the bottom of the front clip to give a little more clearance.
Sorted. No good if you want to keep that pressed groove. Although you could probably keep it across most of the truck and just lose it on the arches I found it much easier to just smooth the doors too!
Dan
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Re: suzuki steve's 410 build
Look at you and your fancy welding. Not jealous at all!
1988 Samurai - Truck Cab & Tray Back - 1.6 8v & HIF44 - Snorkel - Stack Exhaust - PAS, YJs & 33s - Trussed, Gusseted & Pumpkin Capped Axles - 4.3 R&Ps - 4.16 T/Box - Rear Air Locker - Full Float Back Axle & Discs - RCV Front Shafts - X-Eng Handbrake - Custom Fuel Tank
- dan_2k_uk
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Re: suzuki steve's 410 build
I'm going to bed.
Before I forget.
1. There is also Ferris style with no metal sticking out and the plastic/rubber attached inside the arch.
2. Bend the metal round a tyre to get the shape.
3. Cut into the inner arch as little as possible or it will be harder to get the ends to line up.
4. If there are only 2 of you doing it a extra jack and lengths/blocks of timber will help you wedge/prop/jack it into the correct place.
5. Dont be afraid to club the shit out of the inner with a big rubber mallet!
Before I forget.
1. There is also Ferris style with no metal sticking out and the plastic/rubber attached inside the arch.
2. Bend the metal round a tyre to get the shape.
3. Cut into the inner arch as little as possible or it will be harder to get the ends to line up.
4. If there are only 2 of you doing it a extra jack and lengths/blocks of timber will help you wedge/prop/jack it into the correct place.
5. Dont be afraid to club the shit out of the inner with a big rubber mallet!
Janspeed manifold, LWB Vit vented discs and calipers
Build thread -- Build photos -- HLA-Artwork
Coming soon: YJs, Trussed axles, Full float rear.
- Jordi
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Re: suzuki steve's 410 build
No. 5 is very important. A 5lb hammer and lump of wood also work.
1988 Samurai - Truck Cab & Tray Back - 1.6 8v & HIF44 - Snorkel - Stack Exhaust - PAS, YJs & 33s - Trussed, Gusseted & Pumpkin Capped Axles - 4.3 R&Ps - 4.16 T/Box - Rear Air Locker - Full Float Back Axle & Discs - RCV Front Shafts - X-Eng Handbrake - Custom Fuel Tank