overheating on 1.7td engine conversion

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Re: overheating on 1.7td engine conversion

Post by Shawboy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:21 pm

mine overheated like mad then finally got a hole in so decided to go with the 200tdi i've fitted it today just got to pipe it up. just have no idea where to put my turbo cooler as it does not fit at the side of the radiator. just looking for a solution
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Re: overheating on 1.7td engine conversion

Post by Edweird » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:26 pm

I'd mount the intercooler behind the rad, or possibly move the number plate and cut a hole in the bumper, or you could just not have it in at all.

It cools the air going into the engine so you get a little more power. You can do without it.
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Re: overheating on 1.7td engine conversion

Post by Shawboy » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:34 pm

no chance of sitting behind the rad and ive got 2 electric fans cooling the 200tdi rad at the front. argh i just wanna get offroad lol. you can do without it? surely it wouldnt be there if you did not need it?
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Re: overheating on 1.7td engine conversion

Post by Edweird » Wed Nov 27, 2013 11:57 pm

As I said, intercoolers cool the air going through them. Cooler air is more dense so when you heat it up (i.e. when the engine fires) it expands more, forcing the piston down harder.

If you do away with it you'll just not get the same peak power. In an offroader intercoolers don't help much anyway because you're not moving very fast. A cold air intake would serve you better.
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Re: overheating on 1.7td engine conversion

Post by Shawboy » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:01 am

how would i go about the cold air intake? sounds promising
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Re: overheating on 1.7td engine conversion

Post by Edweird » Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:16 am

Having had a closer look at your avatar photo, your snorkel does half the job of a cold air intake. It's taking air from outside the engine bay. Under the bonnet you want to keep the ducting as short as possible and away from hot areas, like the exhaust, as much as possible.
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Re: overheating on 1.7td engine conversion

Post by Shawboy » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:07 am

just like to say I cured all over heating problems :) 200tdi rad did the job for me with digital thermostat. the cooler fitter behind the passenger side front light with a scoop :)
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Re: overheating on 1.7td engine conversion

Post by twiss » Sun Jan 12, 2014 12:15 pm

nice work :)
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Re: overheating on 1.7td engine conversion

Post by Edweird » Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:19 pm

Sounds great. Any chance of a couple of photos?
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Re: overheating on 1.7td engine conversion

Post by Shawboy » Sun Jan 12, 2014 6:17 pm

yeah ill get a few photos up tomorrow cheers for all support guys
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