2014 maruti gypsy escapade

[twiss]

Well the Euro IV and V aren't so bad... but the Euro VI is quite a jump!
Its September 2015 sorry, said that to Scottie earlier but forgot to write it in the post...

If you could ever get an SJ to produce 0.1 CO2 you'd be some kind of miracle worker lol
Also I'm pretty sure my SJ produces more than 0.1 THC

[twiss]

It would mean that they would have to sell a vehicle with a G12 engine in Europe before September 2015, or face more strict standards...

[Rhinoman]

There is still the issue of crash regs. I think Euro 5 mandated CANBus as well.

Incidentally that's not the old dash - it has imitation carbon-fibre in the steering wheel boss

[ScottieJ]

I haven't looked into it properly but with importing surely you don't have to fully meet certain regs as a personal import where it needs to go through an IVA, we aren't talking about comercial imports are we. What about kit cars? They don't have to meet modern safety or emissions regs do they? Yet you'll still be able to build and IVA them.

Looking at it you should be able to put a personal import through a "basic IVA" this does not include current emissions and safety regs.

[ScottieJ]

Basic IVA
Basic IVA is only applicable to the following classes of vehicles. Please refer to Annex 2 on page 49
for definitions of these vehicles (excluding left hand drive) :
1. Personal imports
2. Amateur built vehicles (kit cars)
3. Rebuilt vehicles
4. Very low volume production vehicles
5. Ambulances (ambulances are only ‘M’ category)
6. Motor caravans (motor caravans are only ‘M’ category)
7. Hearses (hearses are only ‘M’ category)
8. Armoured vehicles (armoured vehicles can be ‘M’ or ‘N’ categories)
9. Left hand drive vehicles
10. A vehicle manufactured using parts of a registered vehicle
Any vehicle not being one of the above classes will be subject to a ‘Normal’ IVA inspection.
Although the same items are inspected as in type approval, they are not inspected in the same way. The examiner will, in the case of certain items, conduct an engineering assessment. This check will be in the form of either a visual inspection or a simple test on the vehicle to ensure, as far as practicable, that it complies with the regulations.
The inspection will be limited to parts of the vehicle which can be easily seen without the vehicle having to be dismantled. However, the presenter may be asked to open lockable compartments and remove engine covers, inspection/access panels, trims or carpeting. This is to allow access to items subject to inspection. In addition, as vehicles are inspected individually, the tests are not destructive or damaging to the vehicle in any way.
An Individual Approval Certificate (IAC) is issued when the examiner is satisfied that the vehicle would meet the requirements of the regulations, in the main being in relation to the design and construction of the vehicle. This is as opposed to an MoT, which is concerned about the condition of the vehicle, although with regards to IVA, a vehicle in poor condition may make it impossible to assess whether some construction requirements are met.
Where an item is found to be defective to the extent that it presents a potential danger when the vehicle is used, this may also result in the refusal to issue an Individual Approval Certificate.


Normal IVA
Normal IVA applies to M1 passenger cars and N1 light goods vehicles that are not defined by one of the categories listed subject to Basic IVA. This includes mass produced vehicles that are imported on a commercial basis. These vehicles will have to meet the Basic IVA requirements as well as additional safety, environmental and security aspects. These include brakes, crash safety, seat belt installation and anchorages, exhaust emissions (including CO2), noise and silencers and anti-theft protection. For these additional requirements, the European standard (or in some cases non-EU standards considered to be comparable) for that aspect of the vehicle and appropriate to the age of the vehicle, will have to be met.
For the Normal IVA element of the inspection, the items (other than seat belts) cannot be tested by VOSA because special facilities are required. For such items, you will have to provide additional documentary evidence to demonstrate that your vehicle complies with the ‘Type Approval’ standards required of mass produced cars in Europe. Your vehicle will be checked to ensure it aligns to the documentation provided as evidence of compliance when it is presented at the VOSA test station for the remainder of the inspection.
Compliance with Normal IVA may be demonstrated by one or more of the methods listed in Section 5 on page 14.

[ScottieJ]

There you go if I'm reading that correct it's only mass produced vehicles imported on a commercial basis that need the normal IVA where the crash safety and emissions are included.

Personal imports go through the basic IVA.

Right now where do I find £8500(guess) for the purchase, import and IVA costs????

[windsor]

sounds good just need to find the cash lol
put ya other half up to rent on street corners am shure shill understand

[Rhinoman]

Any vehicle not being one of the above classes will be subject to a ‘Normal’ IVA inspection.
Although the same items are inspected as in type approval, they are not inspected in the same way. The examiner will, in the case of certain items, conduct an engineering assessment. This check will be in the form of either a visual inspection or a simple test on the vehicle to ensure, as far as practicable, that it complies with the regulations.

The two points I've highlighted do, I believe, mean that it should meet the same regs as any other vehicle which would mean that a 2014 vehicle would need to meet the type approval rules for a vehicle built in 2014. The main difference is that you don't have to go through a full type approval process which costs millions (the crash tests would be a sod on a single vehicle import!).

If I had the money I would seriously consider flying to India and driving one back - that would be an adventure

[twiss]

Right now where do I find £8500(guess) for the purchase, import and IVA costs????

Lol its quite a bit more than that I think mate!

You said £6500 for a standard Gypsy right? Well theres 10% import duty first, then 20% VAT, then shipping and importing!

Paying £6.5k originally it will cost you about £8600 without taking shipping (+£600ish) or the IVA into account!

I'd be looking at more around £10k to be honest!!!

[Rhinoman]

I'd be looking at more around £10k to be honest!!!

That's less than a new Jimny and its already lifted with MTs which saves a few hundred quid. The downside is that its a long way back for a warranty claim.