Driving in 4WD question for a novice

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Re: Driving in 4WD question for a novice

Post by ipbr21054 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:11 pm

ok
I would rather look to replace the switch.
It is on the transfer box correct ?
Any photos of what it is like.
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Re: Driving in 4WD question for a novice

Post by twiss » Tue Aug 26, 2014 4:26 pm

Unfortuantely im not too sure what it would look like on a GV, on a samurai I think it's a screw in switch with 2 wires coming off it?
Could be wrong though...
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Re: Driving in 4WD question for a novice

Post by dan_2k_uk » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:31 pm

ipbr21054 wrote:
donkeychomp wrote:I take it that means when being towed...if you tried to tow anything in neutral you'd go nowhere!
My post that mentioned the above was to say that there SHOULD be a 4WD light as when the vehicle needs to be towed the light must be out,this then told me some kind of visual display must be there as i have never seen the 4WD light etc.

Today i removed the clocks & took them apart.
There are no bulbs what so ever,so there must be a few small led etc on the circuit board but this last step would mean pulling off the connections on the back of each needle which looks like it could easily be damaged,so i did not touch them.
I put the clocks back together & made sure everything worked ok, of which it did.

With the selector lever in 2H i pushed it forward say 2 inches etc,no light on at this point.
" This is where i mentioned before about being able to then move the lever side to side as if in neutral with a standard gearbox " I gave it a little movement to the left & let go then bingo,an orange 4WD light came on bottom left of clocks.
If i then continue to move it all the way left then forward so now in 4L the light goes out.

So am i correct in saying that as long as the orange 4WD ight is on i must then be in 4WD ?

Novice question but saves me £££££ should i damage anything for the sake of a few posts here on the forum.

Many thanks.
Sounds like its doing what it should do to me.

The little dogleg in the shift pattern is just so there is something to stop the lever from being pushed all the way forwards or backwards in one movement or a nessecity due to the layout of the gears and shafts in the box.

Starting from 2H with the clutch down push the lever all the way forward until it can't go further. This should be 4H and the 4wd light should be on.

Move it to the left and it will still be 4H and the 4wd light should still be on.

Move it forward and you should feel a little notch as it enters N and the 4wd light should go out.

Push it all the way forward from there and it will be in 4L and the 4wd light should re-illuminate.

Reverse the process to go back.

Pull back till you feel the notch and light goes out and box enters Neutral.

Pull back all the way to the dogleg and box enters 4H. Light should be back on.

Move to right. Box still in 4H. Light still on.

Pull back all the way. Box enters 2H. Light goes off.


Don't worry about the freewheeling hub comment. The GV has an auto freewheeling front diff.
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Re: Driving in 4WD question for a novice

Post by dan_2k_uk » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:34 pm

You can actually operate the box while moving at quite high speeds according to the handbook but I prefer to stop for peace of mind.

You might find you need to be a little firmer with the lever than you think as the transfer box isn't quite as smooth as a covemtional gearbox.
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Re: Driving in 4WD question for a novice

Post by dan_2k_uk » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:35 pm

I also think you will probably find the light to be OK once you understand what the box is doing and are engaging it in a firm and direct manner.
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Re: Driving in 4WD question for a novice

Post by ipbr21054 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 10:53 pm

Hi,
Nice long post and well worth the read.
I mentioned before....
Move lever from 2H forward say 2 inches,no light on,so am i in 4H now ?

Moving on from there,if i nudge the lever from the last position mentioned a little then the 4WD orange light is on,so i assume i am now in 4H correct ?
i am now able to move the lever in a left to right movement,whilst i am here i am still in 4H correct as the light is on ?

Moving it forward into 4L i have not checked if light is on so will check it now and see.

Please can you advise on the questions.

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Re: Driving in 4WD question for a novice

Post by ipbr21054 » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:22 pm

Starting from 2H with the clutch down push the lever all the way forward until it can't go further. This should be 4H and the 4wd light should be on.
" THIS IS NOW CONFIRMED THANK YOU "

Move it to the left and it will still be 4H and the 4wd light should still be on.
" THIS IS NOW CONFIRMED THANK YOU "

Move it forward and you should feel a little notch as it enters N and the 4wd light should go out.
" THIS IS NOW CONFIRMED THANK YOU "

Push it all the way forward from there and it will be in 4L and the 4wd light should re-illuminate.
" THIS IS NOW CONFIRMED THANK YOU "

Just to add.....
When in 4H say "3 o clock" if i move the lever to the right "9 o clock" & let the lever go it then springs
back to the "3 o clock" position.
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Re: Driving in 4WD question for a novice

Post by twiss » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:35 pm

Triple post dan very nice :P
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Re: Driving in 4WD question for a novice

Post by Tramp » Tue Aug 26, 2014 11:49 pm

twiss wrote:Triple post dan very nice :P
You don't get to a post count of 4k posting singularly! I'm just glad he managed to keep the 3 posts on topic & full of useful information,

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Re: Driving in 4WD question for a novice

Post by twiss » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:02 am

I don't know what that says about me then as I've got over 5000 here and I think about 6500 on Difflock ;)
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