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Re: Australian Import 1996 sj

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:14 am
by twiss
Tramp wrote:your forgetting the Suzuki brute...... 350cc good for 48mph apparently - My samurai's 30 years later and not much quicker!!!
Technically that's actually an LJ...

and there were 3 different types of them... the 350cc I2 (LJ10), the 540cc I3 (LJ20+LJ50), and the 800cc I4 (LJ80)

Re: Australian Import 1996 sj

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:23 am
by Tramp
thats just a technicality, In that case eds must be a mk1 SJ, because it was the lj80 that it replaced.....

and after all of that I managed to forget the original hopestar 360 the great grand father of all our little zuk's :thumbup:

Re: Australian Import 1996 sj

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:08 pm
by twiss
Tramp wrote:thats just a technicality, In that case eds must be a mk1 SJ, because it was the lj80 that it replaced.....
No it wasn't :P

After the LJ80, there was the SJ30 (550cc/660cc, na and turbo models), then the SJ40 (a.k.a. SJ410)

Re: Australian Import 1996 sj

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:09 pm
by twiss
Oh and hopestars are so cool! Bet they would be worth a fortune nowadays!

Re: Australian Import 1996 sj

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:10 pm
by twiss
Ebay - "Your search "Hopestar 360" returned 0 items"

Damn

Re: Australian Import 1996 sj

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:51 pm
by Edweird
Wasn't the Hopestar based on the Willys though? Along with the Series one L**d R***r? I'm pretty sure the Willys is the grandaddy of all 4x4s.

Re: Australian Import 1996 sj

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 7:41 pm
by Tramp
looking on wikipedia, It says the SJ10 and early SJ's were just different names for the LJ depending on the market! Thus I think Ed's SJ is the first 'true' sj :cowboy::


And I doubt you will find a hopestar, wiki said they only made 15!!!!!!!!

I would love one of those 660cc turbo'd SJ's If I won the lottery I'd have an SJ of every type! including the 6seaters! god I would love a 6 seater!!!!

Re: Australian Import 1996 sj

Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:13 pm
by Darrell
Never heard of the hopestar, so had to go take a look. Not sure what to make of that :|

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Re: Australian Import 1996 sj

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 9:37 am
by twiss
Well here's a Hopestar 360, which was called the Suzuki Brute (after Suzuki bought hopestar)

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1981 Suzuki SJ30

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That and the 410... They do look identical, but technically they are different models... they didn't even make the SJ410 in 1981.
The started that in '82 in order to export it.
I suppose you could argue its the first European SJ...
as they never exported the SJ30s over here due to the law on how many parts had to be European.

But on the other hand you could argue that they are all Jimnys really anyway!
In Japan, LJs, SJs, Samurais, Jimnys, Vitaras... they are all Jimnys (vitara is "jimny wide")

Re: Australian Import 1996 sj

Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:13 pm
by Edweird
If you want to get picky mine's not the first european one, as in fact I have front discs, not drums.