Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

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Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Post by ektoz » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:44 am

wow! sorry for that is the springs ok??
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Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Post by suzukisteve » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:51 am

right lads I'll try and get on to em today and get some prices for ya
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Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Post by dazerede » Wed Dec 11, 2013 8:53 am

How did you take a photo as the htc is broken
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Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Post by Ladaman » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:03 am

The good news is the spring is fine. :D

I had to get the old iPhone back out for the pic.

Nice one Steve re the pricing, it could be interesting.
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Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Post by gp7186 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:22 am

2.5" more is quite a lot. This will result in either the wheel being 2.5" further forward/back or a long chassis extension on the front/rear. I dont think you will be able to make a pair of plain shackles for the rear to mount to the standard shackle eye when using the navara leafs you will have to move the spring eye. Also this will greatly decrease your approach angle if used on the front. Dont know about flex with the leafs being thicker but less of them turn the spring onto the eyes on the floor with the arch pointing up and stand on both different springs and you will be able to feel the difference
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Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Post by dan_2k_uk » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:22 pm

Guess you will want to use the navaras on the rear again and move the front mount a bit further forward than a standard YJ setup. Then you might get away with using a similar shackle length to a normal YJ conversion.
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Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Post by ScottieJ » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:24 pm

I'm not too sure that I'd want to use the navaras at that length to be honest, you would need to move the chassis mount 5.5" froward to get the same departure angle as YJs and that would put a lot of leverage on the original mounts.
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Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Post by Ladaman » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:38 pm

Mmmmm, a bit of food for thought there.

So what I'm thinking, and feel free to comment.

Check springiness by bouncing on them. Obvious really, don't know why I didn't think of that. :lol:
Assuming OK, then continue with the plan to fit the Navara springs on the rear.
I take on board the extra length comments re departure angles or HUGE reposition of the front mount. Of the two I'd accept loss of departure angle.

So I think these are my options.

1. I've just had a quick look at the rear, rear spring mount and I think I could move that back a good couple of inches to accommodate the extra length.
2. Leave the mount where it is, and make a missing link set up for the rear only.
3. Re drill the springs to put the pin in the centre, and "absorb" the extra 1.1/4" in the mounts. (Longer front brackets, and maybe move the rear ones just 1.1/4")

These are the old springs :shock: Note a missing leaf on the top one, and a Navara spring
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Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Post by gp7186 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:48 pm

I would strongly advise not re-drilling the springs as they will snap through the old hole. I personally would move the rear spring shackle eye back by 3" then I would make the chassis extensions into a rear bumper to absorb the overhang of the mounts
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Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Post by dan_2k_uk » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:50 pm

Wow they have taken some axle wrap!!!
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