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Re: steering Z bar

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:59 am
by Ladaman
I think your right Scottie. I'm sure they are steering arm, tubey things.

I got these as expected.
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But the "drive shafts" look like this!! :er:
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MMmmmm, possibly a bit of a wait now :evil:

Re: steering Z bar

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 10:58 am
by ScottieJ
Yup those are steering bars :lol: how on earth do you mistake halfshafts for steering links????

Re: steering Z bar

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:45 pm
by Ladaman
A bit of a picking error you might say.

I'm just hoping he has a pair of shafts in stock :|

Re: steering Z bar

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 8:11 pm
by Boyes
Ladaman wrote:A bit of a picking error you might say.

I'm just hoping he has a pair of shafts in stock :|
Haha, yeah they are the same bars that came in my high steer kit, minus the track rod's!

Re: Steering Z bar

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:37 pm
by mattmiles
ScottieJ wrote:
twiss wrote:Get mercedes steering arms... you bolt them on with your brake caliper mounts and give you nice easy OTT steering :)

I couldn't tell you which mercedes they come off though!


For an offroad only low speed vehicle maybe, the Tre's have different tapers to suzuki Tre's and this results in barely any surface contact. I would not advise it on any road going SJ!

a thread with measurements etc. http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=22075
Another solution to consider is a half high steer using a single Merc arm.

Rich (Rockwatt) was able to reverse the tapered hole for me, and size it correctly for a Suk joint.

Pics attached :thumbup:

Re: steering Z bar

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:17 pm
by ScottieJ
Am I imagining this or have you turned the knuckles so that the tie rod is behind the axle??? If that's a samurai axle with sj knuckles that will give you reverse Ackerman and cause a lot of tyre scrub while turning, but I guess you know that Matt so I presume it's another set up?

I'm confused? What's the high pinion front diff from a jimny?? More pics and a walk through your set up please Matt :thumbup:

Jimny knuckles and front diff??

Re: steering Z bar

Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 11:31 pm
by Ladaman
A couple of good spots there Scottie.

It might just be the diff's upside down! :shock: That will be fun when try to drive. :S

Got to agree on the steering bar too, very peculiar.

There may be a good explanation though.

Re: steering Z bar

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:59 am
by mattmiles
Am I imagining this or have you turned the knuckles so that the tie rod is behind the axle??? If that's a samurai axle with sj knuckles that will give you reverse Ackerman and cause a lot of tyre scrub while turning, but I guess you know that Matt so I presume it's another set up?

I'm confused? What's the high pinion front diff from a jimny?? More pics and a walk through your set up please Matt :thumbup:

Jimny knuckles and front diff??
Sorry to disappoint, but its really nothing clever! The whole axle is Jimny. Diff is high pinion due to the tie rod being located behind the axle. The diff helps a lot with the front drive line angle too.

Rear Jimny axle is very much the same as a Sami, although 55mm wider.

Matt :D

Re: steering Z bar

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:23 am
by ScottieJ
Ah that was the other thing I was thinking :thumbup: interesting swap.

Re: steering Z bar

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:28 am
by mattmiles
ScottieJ wrote:Ah that was the other thing I was thinking :thumbup: interesting swap.
Cheers Scott. It works well, I probably wouldn't recommend it though unless you can pick up a pair of axles at a very good price (like I did haha) Quite a bit more effort involved compared to a Sami axle swap on a 410.

Matt