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Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:58 pm
by Ladaman
gp7186 wrote:I would strongly advise not re-drilling the springs as they will snap through the old hole. I personally would move the rear spring shackle eye back by 3" then I would make the chassis extensions into a rear bumper to absorb the overhang of the mounts
I thought that might be said :cry:

Plan point 1 then it is.
dan_2k_uk wrote:Wow they have taken some axle wrap!!!
I was a bit surprised too. More powerful engine, low gearing and a Lockright don't mix with skinny springs. :lol:

Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:46 pm
by Anton
Ladaman wrote:I was a bit surprised too. More powerful engine, low gearing and a Lockright don't mix with skinny springs. :lol:
Sounds like you need a bambar, mate. I would like one myself...

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Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:17 pm
by suzukisteve
right lads, so far, no joy with the shocks. most of the people there aren't familiar with em. However I'll keep you updated

Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:26 pm
by trotter
Jordi wrote:
dan_2k_uk wrote:I'm interested in this. Don't wanna buy cheap crap this time round.
Ditto.

Ditto aswell

Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 8:25 pm
by Ladaman
suzukisteve wrote:right lads, so far, no joy with the shocks. most of the people there aren't familiar with em. However I'll keep you updated
Keep trying Steve.

In the mean time, I've dropped an email to eshocks.com requesting a quote for 4 off and 24 off Bilstein 5100 shocks with 14" travel, part number 33-185576 and 255/70 valving. To be delivered to me in the UK, also to be delivered to a business I work for who have a place a few hundred miles from eshocks in the USA.

I will have a chat at work regarding delivery from our place in the US to the UK.

Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:02 pm
by Ladaman
Here's an interesting question. Well I think it is a little interesting ;)

Has anyone ever seen or fitted a missing link set up on the rear?
I've made some mounts for the front location on the rear springs, and the shackle I got with my "new" springs are a good few inches further back (due to longer Navara springs).

I had D flex shackles fitted with the Sammi springs, and thought they were okay. So I should get extra flex if I make missing links, but is there a downside I haven't considered?

I will put some pics up later. :lol:

Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 2:45 pm
by Ladaman
Pics as promised.
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This is with no weight on the axle, so the shackle should get a little angle on it with weight, or I could just shorten the horizontal mount.

Any thoughts?

Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 3:33 pm
by gp7186
Nice work! To be honest they way that you have tied your relocation bracket into that crossmember, I think you could of drilled the hole the extra 2.5" forward and turned the spring around allowing you to run a standard shackle. Im a bit wary of missing links for road use but this does not stop you making them so that you can lock them up using a removable pin which you can take out when off road just a thought

Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:11 pm
by Anton
Aren't missing links just another take on d-flex shackles? I've heard that, when you're driving across (not up/down) an incline, they can "snap" open, making your SJ very tippy and more likely to roll.

I've never seen/experienced that, though.

Have you considered quarter elliptic? Should offer you a similar increase in flex, but a more progressive opening of the extra "leaf" should make it more predictable. I say should...

And quarter elliptic really needs a wishbone type upper link or a panhard rod to triangulate your axle, otherwise they can flex a bit on the horizontal axis.

Re: Fitting YJ springs to a Samurai

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:04 pm
by Rhinoman
Ladaman wrote:
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This is with no weight on the axle, so the shackle should get a little angle on it with weight, or I could just shorten the horizontal mount.
Any thoughts?
I would put some angle on it, it looks like it could fold back the wrong way and bend the spring.