Newly acquired SJ410 project in Spain

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Newly acquired SJ410 project in Spain

Post by Toodlepip » Fri Jun 05, 2020 4:34 pm

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Afternoon all. Just acquired a mid eighties SJ410 that I plan to strip down and rebuild as my first foray into off roading.

A little on the anus (I'll post some pics up shortly);

SJ410 model, mid eighties (can't confirm the exact year until I get the paperwork), 125k (kms), service history ... ummm, none. Cosmetically pretty good although the sun out here has taken it's toll on the paint, few dings but nothing major. Best of all very little corrosion for it's age, although the footwells are starting to go and it'll need some welding around the transmission tunnel. Luckily my welder is on standby and he's keen as mustard. Drove it around the village and undertook a little off road test through the groves; engine sounds good and no untoward transmission noises, gears select ok and the brakes .. brake. A few dodgy electrical issues but nothing that a small amount of head scratching won't sort. It's had a fairly easy life I gather, more a pastures rambler than full on mountain goat, used for negotiating the olive groves and towing of said product to the olive crushy place.

Now before I wheel her into the workshop, I have a few questions for you chaps and chapesses if I may?

-Is it possible to graft a 413 engine into it? I appreciate Vitara motors and the like go in, however I think a tad more poke in the shape of the similar but larger engine would suffice.
-If this isn't possible due to sourcing one, any tips on helping the standard engine breathe and flow a little better? Be that induction, top end fettling or a less restrictive exhaust setup.
-Lastly, as this is a Spanish model, is it a Santana or does that only apply to a few models and in a certain age range bracket? If it helps to pin it down it has disc front brakes and removable fibreglass roof panels, I'm still looking for the turbo. The owner is unsure, or that may well have just got lost in translation somewhere along the line.

Thought I'd go easy and just start with a few, sure there'll be many more as it progresses. Will post some pics shortly too.

Thanks!

Boris.
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Re: Newly acquired SJ410 project in Spain

Post by ScottieJ » Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:17 am

Welcome.

None of the SJ410s ever had a factory turbo, probably why you can't find it :lol:

Tbh I actually prefer the F10 engine over the G13, it's a brilliant little engine and goes well if tuned and set up correctly. The stock set up isn't that restrictive on them so you will barely notice a difference with a different inlet or exhaust set up. You can fit a 1.3 but its quite a big job, you need the 1.3 transmission and to make new engine mounts etc. If you can find one then the f10D that came in some later suzuki Altos is a fuel injected version of the F10, It's the same power as the g13 but more economical and easier to fit mechanically, there are a lot more electrics involved with the fuel injection etc and you'll need to fit a high pressure fuel pump.
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Re: Newly acquired SJ410 project in Spain

Post by Toodlepip » Sat Jun 06, 2020 9:23 am

Many thanks indeed for your reply.
Regarding the engine swap that's great to know,. I hadn't realised there was such a difference, mounting wise, between the f10 & g13. The current motor will be getting removed and overhauled from the top down, although I shall keep an eye out for a donor Alto as well. Really looking forward to the project, will try to get some pics up in the next day or so.

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Re: Newly acquired SJ410 project in Spain

Post by Toodlepip » Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:19 pm

A few pics. Still full of my mates stuff, will get the keys off him soon
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Re: Newly acquired SJ410 project in Spain

Post by Toodlepip » Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:48 pm

Evening to you all, hope you've had a great summer.

Just realised it been 3 years since I last posted! Time has flown by but fortunately I've used it as wisely as possible to continue with the restoration.
So I got her into my workshop and started off by assessing and obtaining parts, though I didn't do too much stripping down as it took over 9 months to get the documentation, a slightly more complicated matter when dealing with Spaniards as it turns out. Within the year it looked like this ...

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Re: Newly acquired SJ410 project in Spain

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Re: Newly acquired SJ410 project in Spain

Post by Toodlepip » Sat Oct 07, 2023 7:58 pm

Got her stripped down to a position where I was still able to move her around so I could reposition in the workshop. By this stage I was able to assess the body damage better, found a few cracks in the bulkhead and around the footwells but nothing major.

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Re: Newly acquired SJ410 project in Spain

Post by Toodlepip » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:02 pm

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Re: Newly acquired SJ410 project in Spain

Post by Toodlepip » Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:07 pm

By this point got the body off, all nuts and fasteners removed with minimum of fuss aside from two that required the cobalt drill bits to be dusted off, to say It was pleased with how smoothly it went was an understatement!about 28 months in now, and my parts orders were coming in thick and fast. Every suspension bush was shot, flexible brake lines had definitely seen better days and all fuel/air hoses were ready for the skip.

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