Travel on brake pedal + brake hoses

[Rjmaas512]

Hello,

Have a feeling that among other things my SJ will fail on brakes. Have spent some time trying to fix them.

The easy part is the brake hoses, they are rather perished, but i will see if they will pass through the MOT or not. Might just get away with it!.
Was wondering what sort of price I should be expecting to pay for new brake hoses, and where to get them from.

I was looking at
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Suzuki-SJ410-Seri ... 588575c344" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

but £50.00 when I can get the same set for a series 3 landrover for less than half that price!

The hard part is I have a fair amount of travel in my brake pedal before the brakes stop the car. The car does stop and when the brakes are applied it isn't moving. Don't know about the handbrake yet though.

I was wondering how much play I should expect to have on my brake pedal and what possibile solutions there could be.
I have bled the system several times with fresh brake fluid. Checked for any leaks around the brake line areas. Have made sure the calipers are not ceased (had to take one to bits and put it back together).

There are new pads and disks at the front and new shoes at the back.

My thinking at the moment is the servo seals, so thinking of replacing the seals in that at the moment. Any advice appreciated.

Thanks,

Rob

[Jordi]

I paid £65 for extended braided s/s hoses from dave at llama 4x4. Expensive but they are sh!t hot. I have almost no play in the pedal and at last MOT brake were pretty much 100% even all round.

As far as i know my master cylinder and calipers are original. All rubbers hoses are now braided steel, including the ones in the front wing from master cylinder to chassis. All other pipes are copper under a year old new discs, pads, shoes, rear cylinders within last 14months.

Brakes international will do a master cylinder kit one presumes.

If you leave it over night is the pedal going soft? Is it using or losing brake fluid?

Jordi

[ScottieJ]

Here you go.

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Just to make sure has your SJ got a bleed valve on the bypass/proportioning valve on the inside of the O/S chassis rail just where it starts to bend upwards at the rear

As for brake lines Llamma 4x4 does them for about £46.50 a set I think, I'm sure you could pick up some standard ones cheaper though.

Most Japanese vehicles use the same fittings as suzuki so you should be able to find an alternative set if you have trouble finding some standard ones.

[Rjmaas512]

Thanks to both of you for this information, will go and check stuff tomorrow, unless work calls me in.

Will let you know how i get on

[Newtomud]

I was looking at Llama4x4 and they are advertising Stainless steel extended brake hoses, made to order for £15.50 each (up to 1m long)
Am I reading the ad right?
Check the web site, click on Suzuki and scroll down to the bottom of the page. If the ad says what I think it says I'm having some new rear lines to go with the discs I'm fitting.
Llama phone Number 01938 850382.

[ScottieJ]

I was looking at Llama4x4 and they are advertising Stainless steel extended brake hoses, made to order for £15.50 each (up to 1m long)
Am I reading the ad right?
Check the web site, click on Suzuki and scroll down to the bottom of the page. If the ad says what I think it says I'm having some new rear lines to go with the discs I'm fitting.
Llama phone Number 01938 850382.

Yep that's where most of us buy our braided hoses from

[twiss]

I vote llama 4x4 as well

[Newtomud]

Brake hoses, Tick..
No where to find the discs.. Suzuki main dealer wants £40 each.

[twiss]

I got mine from Ebay. £45 for 2 including delivery I think it was...

Or you can pay a bit more and get vented or grooved discs

[Newtomud]

I've been looking at Ebay, Trouble is when you buy parts nowadays they just want your reg number to check the parts are the right ones..The calipers I'm fitting to the back are totally different to the original front ones.. The front are lucas? The back are aisin Suzuki like the ones on Andys DIY page, rear disc conversion. A little bit more research I think cause I don't want to spend out on the wrong part.