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Samurai 1.3 gearbox into an sj410

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 4:55 pm
by ojr1979
Hi newbie here just after some advice? Got myself an sj410 first registered 10/04/1985 and I want to put a 5 speed gearbox into it instead of its 4 speed gearbox I was told this was possible very easily so I bought myself a 5 speed samurai 1.3 gearbox.I know I will need a 1.3 samurai clutch as the splined shaft is wider etc but I finally took the 4 speed box out and looked at the faces of each to see if the bolt holes were the same? I think they look different to me so was wandering what others thought? Is it even possible to fit? Here is a pic of both the 5 speed on the left and 4 speed to the right! The lugs on the 5 speed were cut off by the person I bought the box off so that's another job in itself! Any advice appreciated! Cheers

Re: Samurai 1.3 gearbox into an sj410

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 5:00 pm
by Jordi
You can get a 5sp 410 box. Thats the easiest swap.

Re: Samurai 1.3 gearbox into an sj410

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 5:27 pm
by dazerede
I have never heard of anybody putting a samurai 1.3 gearbox to a 410

I have a 5 speed box on my 410 there ain't that many 5 speed 410 gear boxes around
I got mine for 5 quid but cost me 7 quid to get it

My 410 5 speed box bolted straight in piece of cake took 30 mins but then noticed it was in gear and the gear leave wasn't in yet so that took a while to sort out


Havnt tested it yet lol

It's only been in 1st 2nd and 3 rd gear so far and abit of 4 gear as its not on the road yet

Some say its no difference on 4th gear and 5th gear

Re: Samurai 1.3 gearbox into an sj410

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 5:41 pm
by ojr1979
Looks like I shouldn't believe everything I'm told then.Well if anyone on here has one in good condition all works fine etc I'd be happy to buy a 5 speed 410 gearbox or do a swap for the sammy box???

Re: Samurai 1.3 gearbox into an sj410

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 7:00 pm
by Darrell
Yes you need the 410 5 speed box :bawling:
May require some modifying of the mounting bracket on the rear as well depending on what you have now

http://forum.suzukiclubuk.co.uk/vi ... =12&t=3855

Re: Samurai 1.3 gearbox into an sj410

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:51 pm
by donkeychomp
My first SJ was a 410 with a 5 speed box...5th gear was more like an overdrive function really, it just lowered the revs at top speed.

Not that top speed was very much...

Re: Samurai 1.3 gearbox into an sj410

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:45 am
by kiwizook
I believe you can use the gears out of the 1.3 5 speed box, and put them in the 1.0 4 speed case to get a 1.0 5 speed box? just wait for some others to reply, they'll know more about this if I'm right

Re: Samurai 1.3 gearbox into an sj410

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:09 am
by ojr1979
Hhhmmm that's interesting! Wander if anyone's ever done it and took lots of photos to show how its done? Would be very handy indeed!

Re: Samurai 1.3 gearbox into an sj410

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:17 am
by ScottieJ