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413 Kingpin Shims

Post by Scouse Lee » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:40 pm

Hi fellas, I've almost finished rebuilding my front axle.......all I need now is advice on how to put it back together ;) , anyway a question.....when I took the old kingpin bearings out there weren't any shims in them and I didn't get any with my axle bearing & seal kit, do they have/need them or not?

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Re: 413 Kingpin Shims

Post by dan_2k_uk » Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:52 pm

It depends. Every individual axle is made to slightly different size. The shims therefore vary between axles. The only way is to check your individual axle and add or remove shims accordingly.
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Re: 413 Kingpin Shims

Post by Scouse Lee » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:03 pm

dan_2k_uk wrote:It depends. Every individual axle is made to slightly different size. The shims therefore vary between axles. The only way is to check your individual axle and add or remove shims accordingly.
I would have thought the seal/bearing kit I bought would have come with them as it included kingpin bearings, I know the Hilux kit somes with them.......I take it I can buy shims somewhere

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Re: 413 Kingpin Shims

Post by turbo-tom » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:07 pm

main dealer normally think Darrel has the part numbers.. or sometimes few forum members have some laying around they might wish to sell.
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Re: 413 Kingpin Shims

Post by Ladaman » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:12 pm

Have a really good poke around when cleaning the knuckle and king pins up, as I found a few extra then.

You might be unlucky and not find any yet need lots. Just check it all when rebuilding.
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Re: 413 Kingpin Shims

Post by Scouse Lee » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:20 pm

well I didn't see any when cleaning the knuckle although they may be stuck to the bearing.........don't know which bearing came from where though now!, can't seem to find any for sale either

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Re: 413 Kingpin Shims

Post by Darrell » Sun Dec 01, 2013 8:47 pm

Best deal on kingpin bearings I know of is Martin http://www.bigjimny.com/store/index.php ... oduct_id=6

The shims are Suzuki only I believe. The bearing should be just the same size, the shims are fitted to allow for slight differences on the casting. However as the bearing wears slightly some people remove a shim (if it had any) to take up the play and this would need refitting with new bearings.

If martin doesn't have any a company called "Simplybearings" is only slighty dearer.

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Re: 413 Kingpin Shims

Post by Scouse Lee » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:03 pm

Darrell wrote:Best deal on kingpin bearings I know of is Martin http://www.bigjimny.com/store/index.php ... oduct_id=6

The shims are Suzuki only I believe. The bearing should be just the same size, the shims are fitted to allow for slight differences on the casting. However as the bearing wears slightly some people remove a shim (if it had any) to take up the play and this would need refitting with new bearings.

If martin doesn't have any a company called "Simplybearings" is only slighty dearer.

http://www.offroadingpics.co.uk/apps/ph ... =123590947
Cheers mate, as I say I don't know if I need any shims as I didn't see any on when I took the old bearings off but would be good to have some ready for when I put the axle back together just in case

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Re: 413 Kingpin Shims

Post by Darrell » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:09 pm

I would maybe give your nearest Suzuki dealer a ring to see if they have any in stock.
At least if needed you know you could go and get them. If you have alternative transport that is.
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Re: 413 Kingpin Shims

Post by Scouse Lee » Sun Dec 01, 2013 9:11 pm

just looked at the shims on bigjimny.com and it says they are not for use on SJ's.......will phone Suzuki Barnstaple in the morning :thumbup:

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