SJ axle info

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SJ axle info

Post by ScottieJ » Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:27 pm

Thought I'd start a post detailing lots of info about and the specs of suzuki axles, I will be adding to it in time but if you have anything you would like to add please post it up :mrgreen: (I'm sure Darrell will have some useful diagrams ;) )

Pretty much all external components on SJ axles are interchangable i.e. Stub axles, hubs, swivels, seals, bearings, freewheeling hubs. Internal components differ between the 410/413 and Samurai axles i.e. diffs, axle shafts and CV's are not always interchangable.

Ratios & diff interchangability

410= 4.11:1 (37crown wheel > 9pinion)
LJ 80= 4.56:1
Front are 22spline and rears are 26spline.
410 and lj80 diffs are direct swaps although on late SJ410's the bolt spacing on the diff flanges for the props is different
LJ80s and skinny prop SJ410s (upto 84) are 50mmx50mm with 8mm bolts
Later fat prop (85 onwards) SJ410s are 56x56mm with 8mm bolts

413= 3.909:1 (43 crown wheel > 11pinion)
Samurai= 3.727:1 (41 crownwheel > 11 pinion)
Front are 22spline and rears are 26spline.
413 and Samurai diffs are direct swaps Although some Samurai's built from 1990 onwards have a larger bolt spacing on the diff flanges.
up to 89 56x56mm with 8mm bolts
Later models from around 94 onwards are 60x60mm with 10mm bolts

All LJs, SJs and Samurais have a 65mm spigot on the diff flanges and props.

SJ410 & lj80 diffs are smaller than SJ413& Samurai diffs so you cannot swap them.

You can fit Vitara and early GV FRONT ring and pinions into 413 and samurai diffs, the available ratios are as follows.
Vitara
swb manual=5.125:1 unless it's a later model 4u/4u2 etc then they have 4.875:1
auto=4.6:1 or 4.3:1 depending on transmission.
commercial & lwb= 4.88:1
Grand Vitara (to the best of my knowledge)
98-05 G16 manual and Auto= 5.125:1
98-05 J20a manual= 4.875:1 auto= 4.875:1 or 5.125:1
98-05 H25a manual= 4.3:1 auto= 4.875:1
01-03 XL7 H27a manual= 4.3:1 auto= 5.125
03-05 XL7 H27a manual= 4.3:1 auto= 4.3:1
98-00 RF 2.0 diesel manual= 4.3:1 auto= 4.3:1
00-03 RHZ 2.0 diesel manual= 3.909:1 auto= 4.3:1
04-05 RHW 2.0 diesel manual= 3.909:1 auto= 4.3:1

Front 22spline Vitara diffs are a direct bolt into Samurai/413 axles but if it is an alloy diff it is best to swap the ring and pinion into a steel Samurai/413 diff. Rear diffs are larger and do not fit Samurai/413 axles.

Axle widths
(all dimensions are wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface)

Samurai front= 1333.5mm (52.5") rear=1326mm (52.2")
410/413 front= 1232mm (48.5") rear=1224mm (48.2")
Jimny front= 1355 mm Rear= 1365 mm
Spring perch spacing width
(spring locating hole centre to centre)
Samurai front=720mm(28.34") rear= 950mm(37.4")
410/413 front=640mm(25.2") rear=870mm(34.25")

To fit samurai axles onto a 410/413
Each front & rear perch needs to be moved 40mm inwards.

Bearings & Seals

King pin bearings
15x42x14.25 metric taper roller bearing 30302
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Front wheel bearings
LM 3008 49 inner/LM 3008 11 outer
41 x 68 x 17.5mm
Seal should come in the bearing kit fram any motor factor
if desperate could try a 50x68x7mm oil seal but it doesnt have the extra lip to keep the crap out.
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Rear wheel bearings
Suzuki part numbers
Bearing 09269-35009 (bearing code DG357222DW)
Bearing retainer 43485-73000
Oil seal 09283-48007
Spacer (not needed if bearing above is used) 43429-77201

From bearing supplier
Bearing 6207-2RS 35x72x17mm (you will need a 4mm spacer ^^^^)
Oil seal is 48x62x8mm

From motor factors:
SKF Kit = VKBA1972

Front halfshaft oil seal
26x38x8mm

knuckle seals, main stealer part numbers
# 45623-80001] 4x Oil Seal Retainers.
# [09285-00002] 2x Oil Seals.
# [45600-82810] 2x Felts (come in pairs).
# [45625-63001] 4x Oil Seal Covers.

Kits available from singapore on ebay
http://stores.ebay.com/mantra4x4/Axle-P ... 34.c0.m322" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Other front axle info, useful diagrams

Axle Shaft Diameter
Front: 23.87mm (.940")
Rear: 26.67mm (1.05")
Axle Tube Material: HREW
Diameter:65mm (2.56")
Wall Thickness: 3mm (.120")
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Re: SJ axle info

Post by Darrell » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:02 pm

Think you have most, if not all covered. Done this though....
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Re: SJ axle info

Post by ScottieJ » Fri Feb 25, 2011 8:49 pm

Nice one Darrel, if anyone was going to have something I thought it would be you.
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Re: SJ axle info

Post by Darrell » Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:44 pm

So now I've done this one.....
Friday night and I'am doing diagrams :er: . I should get out more :roll:
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All seems to check out...

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Re: SJ axle info

Post by Darrell » Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:46 pm

How about this one................
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Re: SJ axle info

Post by twiss » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:42 am

Nice little reminder you added there darrell :lol:
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Re: SJ axle info

Post by ScottieJ » Thu May 26, 2011 11:23 am

CV info and interchangability
To the best of my knowledge all of the part numbers etc are correct.

Complete Sj413 (not samurai) shafts and CVs can be swapped into 410 axles and vice versa; however the CVs and shafts will not work with each other i.e. a 410 CV will not fit a 413 shaft and vice versa.

SJ410 (With Front Discs)
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Aftermarket Part numbers
QH= QVJ931
ERA= CVN1402
Spidan= 21089
Herth+Bus= J282003
Interparts- OJ-0701
Blueprint- ADK88906
TDL9361
JCV981

O.E. part numbers (With some of these the CV comes complete with shaft)
44102-80001
44102-80000
44101-80001
44101-80000
44101-80001-000
44102-80001-000
44101-80000-000
44102-80000-000

SJ410 Santana (drum brakes)
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Aftermarket Part numbers
Interparts= OJ-0707

O.E. part numbers (With some of these the CV comes complete with shaft)
44101-80020
44101-80000

SJ413/Samurai
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Aftermarket Part numbers
QH= QVJ1492
ERA= CVN1418
Spidan= 22934
Herth+Bus= J2828004
Interparts= OJ-0709
TDL9362
JCV982

O.E. part numbers (With some of these the CV comes complete with shaft)
44102-83320
44102-83000
44101-83320
44101-83000
44101-83000-000
44101-83320-000
44102-83000-000
44102-83320-000

Samurai 92/95
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Aftermarket Part numbers
Herth+bus= J2828008

O.E. part numbers (With some of these the CV comes complete with shaft)
44102A83300
44102-83301
44101A83300
44101-83301
44101-83301-000
44101A83300-000
44102A83300-000
44102-83301-000
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Re: SJ axle info

Post by ScottieJ » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:01 pm

Another note is that early SJ410s and LJs were fitted with front drums.

To convert to front Discs you need the later style CV joints (*fitted to the original halfshafts on LJs as they are different lengths to SJ410s)

Then everything from the knuckle outwards from a later model SJ that has front discs, basically everything in this picture below
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Re: SJ axle info

Post by Darrell » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:32 pm

Never did get round to updating that corrupt diagram, so.
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Re: SJ axle info

Post by Highlander » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:00 pm

Crownwheel and pinion teeth count can be handy for identifying a diff

Samurai - 41 (cw) - 11 (p) = 3.727 ratio

SJ413 - 43 (cw) - 11 (p) = 3.909 ratio

SJ410 - 37 (cw) - 9 (p) = 4.111 ratio
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