Starters for sj 1.6 conversion

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Re: Alternative starter for sj 1.6 conversion

Post by dannytrigger » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:01 pm

getting annoying now its the only thing holding me up on this conversion

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Re: Alternative starter for sj 1.6 conversion

Post by Richie » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:40 pm

Im at this point with mine, was on it till 9 last night and made no progress today!
The one that came with the engine is a bosch one and fits, it has 8 teeth (but its dead)
The spare one i have has a mitsubishi logo on the back, its abit fat but has 9 teeth?
My standard 410 starter has a mitsubishi logo on the back a 8 teeth (possibly a skinny type)
The lucas one i got sent for a g16a engine today is to fat and holes dont quite line up, also 8 teeth

Anyone know if i can use the standard 410 starter with 8 teeth on a 413 flywheel and 1.6 engine?

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Re: Alternative starter for sj 1.6 conversion

Post by Jordi » Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:59 pm

Grind the block to fit the fat starter is always an option.

Is it just the solenoid on the dead one? Swap solenoids over?
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Re: Alternative starter for sj 1.6 conversion

Post by Richie » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:46 pm

yea just a dead solenoid but they wont swap they are completly diff. Grinding the block? surely i would have to take loads out to make it fit?

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Re: Alternative starter for sj 1.6 conversion

Post by Jordi » Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:57 pm

There is a thread and photos somewhere.
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Re: Alternative starter for sj 1.6 conversion

Post by Richie » Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:44 pm

Update
Ive put in my old fat one (with 9 teeth) turned the engine over and loads of grinding noise.
Removed the starter to see some metal filings so i guess 9 tooth starter motors dont line up.

HOWEVER i have found a motor factor who sell a brand new unit (not recon) which is the skinny type with 8 teeth and even the bolt holes line up perfectly!! £65

Ive put this in and she turns over a treat!! (still doesnt run) but atleast turns over lol.

If anyone is interested i will put up the make and model etc and where to get it from

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Re: Alternative starter for sj 1.6 conversion

Post by Coxie91 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:54 am

We're did you get it from? That is the only thing that's stopping me use mine at the moment

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Re: Alternative starter for sj 1.6 conversion

Post by JimNorman » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:34 am

Just to confirm, the starter Valeo D6RA12 is compatible with the starter on my 1992 Suzuki Samurai (Spanish Built) with a 1324 cc engine. My starter solenoid is failing and I need to change it but a new cheap starter seems the way to go for future reliability. Thanks for all the info very helpful, if I bought a solenoid from Tracks of Exeter it would not come as cheap as the new starter I'm sure. cheers.

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Re: Alternative starter for sj 1.6 conversion

Post by twiss » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:19 am

personally, if you are still using a 1.3 engine, there isn't really any need to use the valeo starter motor, or even a suzuki/mitsubishi skinny starter, you might as well just use a regular starter

the only reason we use skinny starter motors for ours it because the 1.6 engine and 1.3 gearbox aren't quite the right shape for each other, and a standard starter will foul on the engine casing
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Re: Alternative starter for sj 1.6 conversion

Post by twiss » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:21 am

You can get brand new standard starters for £80

http://www.woodauto.com/Component.aspx?Ref=STR71031

or replacement solenoids for £16

http://www.woodauto.com/Component.aspx?Ref=SND1803

but it is advisable to call them and give them your starter's part code to make sure its the right one!
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