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steering Z bar

Post by Highlander » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:45 pm

After bending ANOTHER one this weekend I really do need to get a quality one! :)

Whats everyone else using?

Mine is standard SPOA with no extra lift
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Post by ScottieJ » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:17 pm

Might be more than you want to spend but the only true solution in my opinion http://www.rsmfg.co.uk/page15.html
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Post by twiss » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:55 pm

Get mercedes steering arms... you bolt them on with your brake caliper mounts and give you nice easy OTT steering :)

I couldn't tell you which mercedes they come off though!
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Post by ScottieJ » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:02 pm

twiss wrote:Get mercedes steering arms... you bolt them on with your brake caliper mounts and give you nice easy OTT steering :)

I couldn't tell you which mercedes they come off though!


For an offroad only low speed vehicle maybe, the Tre's have different tapers to suzuki Tre's and this results in barely any surface contact. I would not advise it on any road going SJ!

a thread with measurements etc. http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=22075
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Post by ScottieJ » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:19 pm

well unless you make a new steering links with mercedes Tre's :thumbup:
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Post by twiss » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:21 pm

Yeah as scott points out I think most people use different tie rods.

My mate who's got the merc arms on his has a different tie rod that's about the same length as a suzuki one
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Re: Steering Z bar

Post by Highlander » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:05 pm

I'm going with the Merc steering arms and TRE's

Been trawling the Merc forums to find the right ones, the off road forums are full of dodgy info! :hahaha:

They are actually called steering arms and are fitted to the 126 Chassis which covers these models :

Model numbers in BOLD

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Part 11 on this picture (they are handed left and right)

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These are the Mercedes part no's (if you want new ones)

STEERING ARM LEFT - A 1163321620

STEERING ARM RIGHT - A 1163321720

This is one fitted on a Suzuki, it bolts to the caliper holes but needs slightly drilled out to fit and longer bolts.

The new bolts need to be :

M12 x 1.25 x 50

M12 x 1.25 x 60

They are different lengths, you will need one of each for either calliper

I'll add some pics as I do it

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Post by ianedwards » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:26 pm

if you do, it would be great to see how you do it,

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Re: Steering Z bar

Post by Highlander » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:41 am

Wee update :

Steering arms can be had here (big Merc breakers)

http://www.mercman.net

£10 each plus vat :D

One of the ebay breakers I asked wanted £50 each plus postage!! :screwy:

They are £41 each new from Mercedes :D
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Re: steering Z bar

Post by justaddmud » Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:02 am

I think that merc arm is such a good idea compared to the horrid Z-Bar

I was going to do it using only 1 arm by making a new drop link and leaving the existing tia bar in place on the original mounts, in theory to make the drop link all I needed was 2 rod ends (one for SJ and one for Merc) a beefy bit of Dom and someone to cut some threads in either end so that the rod ends could also be changed when they wear out too.

£10 each, that makes for a cheap decent conversion

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