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Re: What Did You Do To Your SJ Today?

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 11:47 am
by Gilly_SJ
removed my broken spring packs and made some hybrids out of Bedford springs and my original top and bottom leaves.....Its now lower than it was on the broken ones!

Ordered an Add a Leaf from LLama and I'm looking to see if I have any thicker leaves kicking about to try make it a bit more firm.

Re: What Did You Do To Your SJ Today?

Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:36 pm
by ScottieJ
Gilly_SJ wrote:removed my broken spring packs and made some hybrids out of Bedford springs and my original top and bottom leaves.....Its now lower than it was on the broken ones!

Ordered an Add a Leaf from LLama and I'm looking to see if I have any thicker leaves kicking about to try make it a bit more firm.
if the tyres still fit i wouldn't worry about it........you want soft springs, they will flex better. flex is more important than height.

Re: What Did You Do To Your SJ Today?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:38 pm
by Gilly_SJ
The back end is too low compared to the front, the castor angle will be miles away and it didn't drive "well" before :lol:

Re: What Did You Do To Your SJ Today?

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:35 pm
by ScottieJ
:er: The rear springs won't change the caster angle? Even changing the front springs won't as they have a centred pin so the amount of arch in the spring doesn't matter.

Only easy way to adjust the caster is by fitting different length shackles, longer shackles reduce the caster angle.

Simple, fit standard length shackles to the front and it will lower it and fix the caster angle as well as increasing the approach angle ;)

Re: What Did You Do To Your SJ Today?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:51 pm
by twiss
What did I do today.... fitted a gypsy bumper for the VRT/MOT.... and no it doesn't clear the 31s at all haha

Re: What Did You Do To Your SJ Today?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:20 pm
by SherwoodNash
Is your VRT as strict as our MOT twiss? are you confident about your LED's going thru OK?

Re: What Did You Do To Your SJ Today?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:26 pm
by twiss
Well they have made it a bit more strict on modifications here this year.... so things like winch bumpers, rollcages need approval from Transport Malta (maltese DVLA)
From speaking to the locals people seem to just swap parts about for the VRT. Only every 2 years so not too much hassle.

But apart from that they can be a bit slacky. Like my last car I VRTd passed with some lights out and they didn't even check things like the seat belts.

Re: What Did You Do To Your SJ Today?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:49 pm
by Gilly_SJ
ScottieJ wrote::er: The rear springs won't change the caster angle? Even changing the front springs won't as they have a centred pin so the amount of arch in the spring doesn't matter.

Only easy way to adjust the caster is by fitting different length shackles, longer shackles reduce the caster angle.

Simple, fit standard length shackles to the front and it will lower it and fix the caster angle as well as increasing the approach angle ;)
The back end is lower and will have rotated the anus about the front axle changing the castor angle, might not be much but the rear is a good 3" lower so will be noticeable.

Its on extended shackles and lift springs so I'm no where near even changing the front to standard, plus I don't have any shackles and I've already ordered the add a leaf :lol:

Re: What Did You Do To Your SJ Today?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:51 pm
by SherwoodNash
twiss wrote:Well they have made it a bit more strict on modifications here this year.... so things like winch bumpers, rollcages need approval from Transport Malta (maltese DVLA)
From speaking to the locals people seem to just swap parts about for the VRT. Only every 2 years so not too much hassle.

But apart from that they can be a bit slacky. Like my last car I VRTd passed with some lights out and they didn't even check things like the seat belts.
Just wondered as I read this 6 year old article
http://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/vi ... hts.292260

Re: What Did You Do To Your SJ Today?

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:51 pm
by ScottieJ
Gilly_SJ wrote:
ScottieJ wrote::er: The rear springs won't change the caster angle? Even changing the front springs won't as they have a centred pin so the amount of arch in the spring doesn't matter.

Only easy way to adjust the caster is by fitting different length shackles, longer shackles reduce the caster angle.

Simple, fit standard length shackles to the front and it will lower it and fix the caster angle as well as increasing the approach angle ;)
The back end is lower and will have rotated the anus about the front axle changing the castor angle, might not be much but the rear is a good 3" lower so will be noticeable.

Its on extended shackles and lift springs so I'm no where near even changing the front to standard, plus I don't have any shackles and I've already ordered the add a leaf :lol:
The back being lower would increase caster angle though and that's not a bad thing.. I do agree though having the back lower is far from ideal haha the main problem with the longer shackles is the reduced caster angle though, that's probably why it drives badly ;) just warning you that add-a-leafs are really stiff normally and give quite a harsh ride!