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me thinks ive been misled :( 1.3 sammy or isit vit 1.6

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:57 pm
by Wispa
i was sold my sj413 with the 1.6 8v vitara engine now yes its an 8v etc etc but ive never seen sj or vitara engines at all before, but my problem is ive now got a manual for it and looking at pics of the engine im thinking its just the original sj engine what do you guys think?

Re: me thinks ive been misled :( 1.3 sammy or isit vit 1.6

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:04 pm
by twiss
It will have the engine CC stamped on it, around where this arrow points.
My vit engine says "1590cc", samurai/sj engines will say "1324cc" or "1298cc"

Re: me thinks ive been misled :( 1.3 sammy or isit vit 1.6

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:10 pm
by ScottieJ
As twiss says, its deffo got 413 intake on the carb, they do fit on a vit carb but need to be modified as to not interfere with the choke.

In general the 1300 and 1600 8vs look pretty much identical, the 1.6 just has a longer stroke and taller block.

Re: me thinks ive been misled :( 1.3 sammy or isit vit 1.6

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:29 pm
by twiss
and a bigger fuel pump! :)

Re: me thinks ive been misled :( 1.3 sammy or isit vit 1.6

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:51 pm
by Wispa
you were right twiss! mahoosive engine size numbers of 1590cc on the side of the block! how could i miss that :oops:
at least i know what it is now,
while im at it and so i dont clog up the forum, ive been given 2 transfer boxes, ive been told its a 410 box in the sj, but how can i work out whats what as i need both 410 and 413 for the rocklobster conversion

cheers for the help by the way much appreciate it :beer:

Re: me thinks ive been misled :( 1.3 sammy or isit vit 1.6

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:46 pm
by twiss
If it's got a handbrake drum attached to the box, it's probably a 410 box.

Check out the write up here:
http://www.suzukiclubuk.co.uk/rocklobster.html

I would get a professional to do the gear welding though, you don't want it to snap off!!!

Re: me thinks ive been misled :( 1.3 sammy or isit vit 1.6

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:50 pm
by ScottieJ
Put the tbox in Lo. Mark the input and an output. The input should spin 2.5 times to 1rotation on the output if its a 410 tbox.

Re: me thinks ive been misled :( 1.3 sammy or isit vit 1.6

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:12 pm
by Wispa
ScottieJ wrote:Put the tbox in Lo. Mark the input and an output. The input should spin 2.5 times to 1rotation on the output if its a 410 tbox.
yep thats what i measured and in the same way and if its a 413 should of been 2.1 times, mine is 2 and a quarter turns :headbang:
twiss wrote:If it's got a handbrake drum attached to the box, it's probably a 410 box.

Check out the write up here:
http://www.suzukiclubuk.co.uk/rocklobster.html

I would get a professional to do the gear welding though, you don't want it to snap off!!!
it does have the handbrake drum on the box the same as what's on my SJ, the other spare i have has been stripped, (selector and flanges) so just bare box left..