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indicators not working grrrrr

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:30 pm
by bigben
Hi i have been having troubble with my indicators since i bought the car monday they just wont bloody work. Am i right in thinking the relay/flasher is at the top of the fuse pannel? If so this has been moved to the chassy and the wiring extended for some unknown reason to me it is a 4 pin item with what look like the normal wires and an extra one going through a light and down to ground. The item in question is the blue thing lol

ive bashed it and all sorts well what i think is the relay anyway but there seems to be quite a few loose exposed wires maybe thats the case?
I have changed the stalk unit too as to no avail


what the hells up with it? any ideas as i really want to get her on the road now :cry:

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This in one of the bare wires on the pass side you can just see it red
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Re: indicators not working grrrrr

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 7:47 pm
by ScottieJ
First things first, is your sj Jap or Spanish? Vin number starts vse for Spanish and jse for Jap.
That way I can look at the right wiring diagram and try and help you work out what colour wires are supposed to go where. :thumbup:

Secondly what the hell is that blue thing? :lol: is it some sort of relay?

Re: indicators not working grrrrr

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:09 pm
by bigben
well it says JSA on the log book lol
I havent a clue what it is but it looks to have been put in place of whatever was above the fuses looks to have been a 3 pin relay but this ones 4 pin.

It is a 410 on a c plate if that helps mate

Re: indicators not working grrrrr

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:28 pm
by Darrell
Well all I can offer is info on my 1986 413 and hope there the same :salute:

That blue unit looks like a relay normally used inside industrial panels. I've got hundreds like that in panels at work!!!
I believe the indicator relay is the round aluminium body unit with 3 wires. And the colours look like they may be the same as mine.

Re: indicators not working grrrrr

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:46 pm
by Darrell
Just had a look at your steering wheel post and spotted this. Hope I'am barking up the right tree??

Re: indicators not working grrrrr

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:21 pm
by bigben
just had a mooch that circular one on the left is the brake light switch popped the clip back on not long after the photo was taken what relay is located in the fuse pannel?

thanks for the replies allready

Re: indicators not working grrrrr

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:35 pm
by Darrell
The one just above the fusebox is the indictor relay. That's why I thought yours may of been different as there's nothing in yours.

Re: indicators not working grrrrr

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:48 pm
by mayhemmiller
in your pics looks like someone has rewired the old relay and put in the blue thing
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Re: indicators not working grrrrr

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:31 pm
by Darrell
Mayhemmiller may well be right. Unscrew the fusebox and have a look whats been bodged on the back. Took a couple of pics of my relay anyway for future reference.

Re: indicators not working grrrrr

Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 11:05 pm
by bigben
yep thats deffo the case they have sniffed the old spade connectors off and lengthend the wires to the dodgy looking blue one so now ive got to try and find another bugger hope that will fix it. All i need to know now is why on the blue one is there an extra pin that goes to a small light then out of the light to ground??

thanks for all the quick help so far lads :salute: