i need help with brake shoes and cylinders on 410

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i need help with brake shoes and cylinders on 410

Post by dazerede » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:09 pm

Right I took my rear right drum off and It needs new shoes and cylinders but I seen my shoes on it naw have the thing for the handbrake a bit confused plus the rear break lines on my zook it Ts of straight from the braided hose pipe but my other 410 axle 100% is a 410 axle doesn't T off it goes to one cylinder and then goes to the other cylinder :er:

I will upload pics tmoz to explain

Going to jack the rear up tmoz and take the prop of and all of the rear brakes as the are all fucked and make sure it is a 410 diff and axle

And I will need to get new shoes and cylinders I found this any good

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Re: i need help with brake shoes and cylinders on 410

Post by Darrell » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:42 pm

All my diagrams show the pipes going to one cylinder then across to the other. IE pipe in-out and pipe in-bleed nipple.
However when searching for cylinders it showed the later model 410 using only one type. IE pipe in-bleed nipple. So assume this has a "Tee" fitted.

I would establish exactly what you have fitted now before ordering.

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Re: i need help with brake shoes and cylinders on 410

Post by Darrell » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:48 pm

I also believe the shoes with the handbrake lever are also slightly larger than the ones without.
Best you get the tape measure out :thumbup:
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Re: i need help with brake shoes and cylinders on 410

Post by Darrell » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:10 pm

Seems like you have a later model 410 back axle by the sounds of it. According to the brakes website the handbrake on the rear drums was 1987 onwards (E reg>)

Nicked the shoe info now :thumbup:
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Re: i need help with brake shoes and cylinders on 410

Post by andyrew » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:14 pm

Sounds to me that you have a spanish axle fitted and your spare one is jap.
Is the spare axle the one off the sj originally?
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Re: i need help with brake shoes and cylinders on 410

Post by Darrell » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:22 pm

Are the later models all Santana's or did they still make them in Japan as well.
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Re: i need help with brake shoes and cylinders on 410

Post by Darrell » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:53 pm

andyrew wrote:Sounds to me that you have a spanish axle fitted and your spare one is jap.
Is the spare axle the one off the sj originally?
Sounds good to me :thumbup:

Looks like they built them in Spain and Japan to get around import limits :er:
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Re: i need help with brake shoes and cylinders on 410

Post by dazerede » Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:59 am

Chears darrell for the info when I bought it all I done was swap the front axle as I seen a sj in my local scrapyard and got the axles of that

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Re: i need help with brake shoes and cylinders on 410

Post by dazerede » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:09 pm

Right took my brakes of.my rear axle on my zook and off.my spare rear axle which are both 410 axles

Here are the pics of my brakes on.my zook
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Passenger side rear shoes and cylinder
Passenger side rear shoes and cylinder
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Drivers side rear shoes and cylinder
Drivers side rear shoes and cylinder
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Passenger side brakes on vehicle
Passenger side brakes on vehicle
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Drivers side brakes on vehicle
Drivers side brakes on vehicle
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Suzuki Sj 410 Jap Built
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Re: i need help with brake shoes and cylinders on 410

Post by dazerede » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:11 pm

This is the brakes on.my spare axle
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Full rollcage and winch bumper
1.6 8v vitara lump with su carb
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