Checking a Lockright install
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Checking a Lockright install
Right I've had a quick look but only found this, but it doesn't really answer my question.
http://forum.suzukiclubuk.co.uk/vi ... lock*right
I've just fitted my Lockright, and I've come to check the install, but get strange results.
In neutral if I rotate a wheel the other goes the same direction. (with an open diff it would go the opposite way).
In gear if I rotate one forward until it locks and hold it. With a person on the other wheel rotating it forward, it will go a small amount and lock. if I then rotate backwards the first wheel it clicks once, then locks after not too far. rotating the other wheel until it locks, and holding it, then rotating the first wheel forwards again it clicks once.
Is this correct, or when it clicks it should click lots of times.
I've not put oil in yet, or run it with the engine, as I want to know if it's ok first.
http://forum.suzukiclubuk.co.uk/vi ... lock*right
I've just fitted my Lockright, and I've come to check the install, but get strange results.
In neutral if I rotate a wheel the other goes the same direction. (with an open diff it would go the opposite way).
In gear if I rotate one forward until it locks and hold it. With a person on the other wheel rotating it forward, it will go a small amount and lock. if I then rotate backwards the first wheel it clicks once, then locks after not too far. rotating the other wheel until it locks, and holding it, then rotating the first wheel forwards again it clicks once.
Is this correct, or when it clicks it should click lots of times.
I've not put oil in yet, or run it with the engine, as I want to know if it's ok first.
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Re: Checking a Lockright install
No one?
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Re: Checking a Lockright install
It will be fine.
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Re: Checking a Lockright install
Thanks for the confidence vote
I hope it is as I'm going green laneing in Wales on the 29th Nov, with a group of bland rovers, and I don't want to let the Suzuki side down>
I hope it is as I'm going green laneing in Wales on the 29th Nov, with a group of bland rovers, and I don't want to let the Suzuki side down>
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Re: Checking a Lockright install
I'm sure it'll be fine. To my mind, it sounds like it's working. They're an unlocker as opposed to a locker as I understand it.
Worst case scenario, you drop the rear prop and drive home in 'Front' wheel drive.
Worst case scenario, you drop the rear prop and drive home in 'Front' wheel drive.
There's three ways of doing things:
The right way,
The wrong way
And my way, which is like the wrong way but faster.
The right way,
The wrong way
And my way, which is like the wrong way but faster.
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Re: Checking a Lockright install
Lockrights aren't "differentials" as such, and as Ed says, they're also not quite "lockers" - they're more "unlockers".
Essentially, both wheels are forced to move at the same speed and in the same direction as the crownwheel. One wheel can "over-run" the other (like a freewheeling bicycle) but it can only go *faster* than the crownwheel, never slower or in the other direction.
Essentially this means that on tarmac, in a corner, the inner tyre will run the same speed as the crownwheel, while the outer one will "over-run" and run faster, as long as you don't put much power through it (which can cause it to stop unlocking/over-running).
This is my observation of how they work from looking at exploded diagrams, I've never actually owned one.
Essentially, both wheels are forced to move at the same speed and in the same direction as the crownwheel. One wheel can "over-run" the other (like a freewheeling bicycle) but it can only go *faster* than the crownwheel, never slower or in the other direction.
Essentially this means that on tarmac, in a corner, the inner tyre will run the same speed as the crownwheel, while the outer one will "over-run" and run faster, as long as you don't put much power through it (which can cause it to stop unlocking/over-running).
This is my observation of how they work from looking at exploded diagrams, I've never actually owned one.
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Re: Checking a Lockright install
I see what you're saying Anton / Edwierd. I've just had another look at the instruction sheet, and thought about how it went together. And yes, under power it will be locked, but when coasting it will allow it to unlock.
So as Mike says "
So as Mike says "
mike harris wrote:It will be fine.
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Re: Checking a Lockright install
Right it's all back together, load of new bits in, and I've just got back from a test drive.
Is a Lockright supposed to frighten you to death?
Sometimes when driving on the road, it clicks fairly gently as I was expecting. Other times you can go around a corner and hear nothing.
BUT, occasionally it sounds like it's about to snap a half shaft, and the Samurai feels like it's jumping all over the place.
Is this normal?
To me it feel like it isn't letting go properly, even when under light power.
I'm pretty sure there are no shims to adjust, or is there!!!
Is a Lockright supposed to frighten you to death?
Sometimes when driving on the road, it clicks fairly gently as I was expecting. Other times you can go around a corner and hear nothing.
BUT, occasionally it sounds like it's about to snap a half shaft, and the Samurai feels like it's jumping all over the place.
Is this normal?
To me it feel like it isn't letting go properly, even when under light power.
I'm pretty sure there are no shims to adjust, or is there!!!
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Ignis Sport 1.5 16V; Jimny gearbox, 410 transfer box; 5.125:1 Vitara diffs; rear Lockright, Rob Storr full float rear axle, rear discs, YJ springs, virtual lift, 31" Grizzly Claws, beadlock rims, +50mm LR arches, LED rear lights, LED roof spots, bucket seats, Luke harnesses, internal cage
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Re: Checking a Lockright install
Just a bump back to the home page.
Wales is beckoning, and I'm not overly happy with it.
Wales is beckoning, and I'm not overly happy with it.
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Re: Checking a Lockright install
Hello,
Right I've just had mine built, and had to take it out again to re shim it.
Pm me and we can talk
Mike
Right I've just had mine built, and had to take it out again to re shim it.
Pm me and we can talk
Mike