MG410 Steering Easy to Left, Hard to Right

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Re: MG410 Steering Easy to Left, Hard to Right

Post by courior » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:44 pm

For the Kingpins, It looks like the shims are wedged between the head of the kingpin with the 4 bolts and the casing of the knuckle, so to simply remove a shim there seems no need to remove anything else apart from the kinpin itself? (ok maybe the wheel as well to get better access :))

In general though... Does the steering on these things feel spongy? At full lock there is no hard stop as you would find with a rack and pinion steering box, it sort of gets to the end of its travel with a soft cushion effect (if you turn it really hard at the lock you can sort of squeeze a little more out of it if you get what i mean)... Is this just a characteristic of this car and its Z style steering?

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Re: MG410 Steering Easy to Left, Hard to Right

Post by twiss » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:05 pm

The steering has always got a bit more play in it than a road car, but mine does reach a hard top.
Full lock happens when one of the bolts (that holds the felts and oil seal on) hits the axle casing
Maybe get a friend to turn it right round to full lock and check its touching the bolt.

Back to the handling, I find that to keep mine in a straight line you have to make constant tiny adjustments

What are the felt pads like? I assume you haven't put new ones in yet
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Re: MG410 Steering Easy to Left, Hard to Right

Post by courior » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:23 pm

Yeah i need to make very tiny adjustments to keep it going in a straight line.. The felt pads i havent looked at, but one side has a LOT of axle grease leaking out onto the bellend... sorry swivel cup thing :P, so i presume its well gone ... The other side is pretty much bone dry so i guess its ok.

Forgot to mention.. While testing the CV's in a gravelly field at the end of my street i managed my first drift! (never had a RWD car before) who would of thought that was possible in an open diff (in 2wd mode) car with only 40 odd horsepower lol..
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Re: MG410 Steering Easy to Left, Hard to Right

Post by courior » Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:35 pm

Just went out for a quick spin on an errand and i killed the motor at about 20mph (no power brakes anyway!) and alas i could still hear what sounds like a wheel bearing rumble. DAMN IT.. All the wheels dont show bearing wear when you wobble the wheel when its up in the air. (the front 2 have about 1mm play in the kingpin as you know from previous posts). so something else could be making the noise.. or its just a "normal" noise of this car.. not sure.. there are no carpets or roof lining so its very echo'y and tin can like which i guess would amplify these sorts of sounds.

What else do you think it could be?

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Re: MG410 Steering Easy to Left, Hard to Right

Post by ROBBIE » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:10 pm

The grease could be the oil seal gone which will wash it out
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Re: MG410 Steering Easy to Left, Hard to Right

Post by twiss » Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:17 am

Im just glad Im not the one with gear oil on my bell end.... that stuff stinks!
They are quite noisy vehicles anyway and I find you get a bit more of a drone when driving along than in a normal road car... but would have to listen to the noise really...
As long as the wheels aren't falling off you'll be fine lol ;)

As for drifting.... don't even get me started on that! They are drift machines :D
Mine loves to go sideways with the 1.6 16v! The hardest part is remembering not to try it in the dry and scrub my nice new tyres! haha
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Re: MG410 Steering Easy to Left, Hard to Right

Post by courior » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:55 am

Here in the dry is like the UK in the rain, grip wise, and in 40C summer heat, or in rain, the roads turn to a ICE LIKE state!... so i think i will have to get much better at drifiting before winter comes lol!

I will live with the noise then, it doesnt bother me, but as long as i know its meant to be there... Shame i spent so much time and money in changing the wheel bearings for nothing :( but i learned a LOT about how the axle works, and the proper names for things ;) .. When you come over you can take it for a spin and let me know if you think it works ok... And if not then maybe i can rope u in to help sort it out hahaha
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Re: MG410 Steering Easy to Left, Hard to Right

Post by twiss » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:02 am

You haven't changed the bearings for nothing.... they could last another 5-10 years now depending on how hard you drive it! New bearings are never a bad thing :)

I'd love to take it for a spin :D although I think the F10 engine would depress me with its lack of power ;)

I don't normally charge anything to help people on their Zooks (unless they offer of course) but I think fixing a Zook while on holiday may qualify for some form of payment (even if in beer form lol) ;)

We'll see how it goes!
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Re: MG410 Steering Easy to Left, Hard to Right

Post by courior » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:18 am

Lol i was joking about helping fix it mate, a holiday is for relaxing not for fixing cars. But having a go in it and a quick spot check to let me know if you think anything is wrong would be much appreciated and definitely worth a couple of beers, and even maybe a BBQ on the beach. :)
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Re: MG410 Steering Easy to Left, Hard to Right

Post by twiss » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:25 am

Well I suppose my Mrs wants to sunbathe for a week so I might as well do what I like ;)

BBQ sounds good though haha
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