Couple of engine swap questions
Couple of engine swap questions
Im hopefully going to be putting my vitara engine into the SJ at the weekend but have a couple of questions.
Do i need to put the sump from my 1.3 on it? If so is it just a staight swap??
Also will the starter from my 1.3 fit straight on, or will i have to buy a vitara one?
Cheers.
Do i need to put the sump from my 1.3 on it? If so is it just a staight swap??
Also will the starter from my 1.3 fit straight on, or will i have to buy a vitara one?
Cheers.
86 SJ413 tin top, 1.6 8v, SU carb, YJ spring conversion, virtual lift, 33x12.5x15 KL71's, rocklobster, rear discs, power steering.
Re: Couple of engine swap questions
Hi You do not need to change the sump. How much lift do you have?
If you do decide to swap sumps then you will need to modify the oil pick up.
Starters, both sj and vitara ones are the same. You will need a skinny starter if you want the bolt on solution.
You can use the fat starter... but you have to grind the block away... and im a bit heavy handed with the old grinder...

If you do decide to swap sumps then you will need to modify the oil pick up.
Starters, both sj and vitara ones are the same. You will need a skinny starter if you want the bolt on solution.
You can use the fat starter... but you have to grind the block away... and im a bit heavy handed with the old grinder...


Re: Couple of engine swap questions
Cheers Henry. I have add a leafs so probably about 2" of lift, i would rather not change the sump if i dont have to.
With the starter, how do i know if it is a slim starter or not? Did some modals come with a skinny starter and some not?? Id rather not have to grind the block down. Thats just asking for trouble
With the starter, how do i know if it is a slim starter or not? Did some modals come with a skinny starter and some not?? Id rather not have to grind the block down. Thats just asking for trouble

86 SJ413 tin top, 1.6 8v, SU carb, YJ spring conversion, virtual lift, 33x12.5x15 KL71's, rocklobster, rear discs, power steering.
Re: Couple of engine swap questions
You should be ok then and not need to change the sump.
What make are the starters? Mitshubishi are fat along with others. You need a vaelo or bosh.
This should show the difference.
Top vaelo
Bottom Mitshubishi

What make are the starters? Mitshubishi are fat along with others. You need a vaelo or bosh.
This should show the difference.
Top vaelo
Bottom Mitshubishi

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Re: Couple of engine swap questions
imho i would move the bump stops my 1.6 has a dented sump (i was running 3" lift shackles now have add a leaf+reversal kit) and it will extend the life of your springs 

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Jimny 1.6 not as good as an SJ but still good
Re: Couple of engine swap questions
All of my sumps have been dented but that will not cause any problems.
bump stops should be extended to stopp excessive spring ware/damage.
bump stops should be extended to stopp excessive spring ware/damage.
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Re: Couple of engine swap questions
[quote="henry-the-hoover"]All of my sumps have been dented but that will not cause any problems.
its not my stops that are dented its the sump
its not my stops that are dented its the sump

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Jimny 1.6 not as good as an SJ but still good
Jimny 1.6 not as good as an SJ but still good
Re: Couple of engine swap questions
Not sure what make my starter is but looking at the pictures i think i have the fat one. Are the skinny ones easy enough to get hold of?
The bump stops are sorted, i extended them when i put the add-a-leafs on.
Cheers.
The bump stops are sorted, i extended them when i put the add-a-leafs on.
Cheers.
86 SJ413 tin top, 1.6 8v, SU carb, YJ spring conversion, virtual lift, 33x12.5x15 KL71's, rocklobster, rear discs, power steering.
Re: Couple of engine swap questions
Not really. there are a sought after starter.
I bought one reconditioned for £30. Keep it as a spare. I have a vaelo in the shed but the magnets are smashed in it.
The only one i can find on the bay.. (bosh)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Starter-Motor-Suz ... 4329wt_937
I bought one reconditioned for £30. Keep it as a spare. I have a vaelo in the shed but the magnets are smashed in it.
The only one i can find on the bay.. (bosh)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Starter-Motor-Suz ... 4329wt_937
Re: Couple of engine swap questions
£100 FOR A STARTER MOTOR!!
I think il take my chances with the grinder 


86 SJ413 tin top, 1.6 8v, SU carb, YJ spring conversion, virtual lift, 33x12.5x15 KL71's, rocklobster, rear discs, power steering.